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older daughter and defication
Category: Family and Home > Parenting Asked by: myname6652-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
22 Jan 2006 08:09 PST
Expires: 21 Feb 2006 08:09 PST Question ID: 436472 |
Well, I don't even know where to start. I'm very worried about my step daughter. I know that both of my step children, have issues and they need to be addressed. But, what has happened lately truly concerns me. My 8 year old daughter is defecating in her bedroom. This is not the first time that this has happened. She does not wet when she is sleeping but only awake. I know that it is not physical because she never has a accident anywhere else. One night I went into her room and found that she had went to the bathroom in her barbie's bathtub. She left it in the middle of her room, and when I ask her about it she said that she couldn't make it to the bathroom. I asked her if she felt like she couldn't control her bladder, but she said that she could. I realized that it took longer to pull her pants down and aim properly, then to just go to the bathroom. ( whish is right next to her room) But there was a time before that, when I took her to my brother's girlfriend's house and we were all swimming. We soon discovered that she had deficated in the pool. When asked if she could explain herself, she said that she thought I would have gotten mad at her is she had to go to the bathroom again. (not true) This happened when she was 6. But last night was the straw on the camels back. I was working along with my husband and my mother was watching all the kids. Brooke was playing in her room with her makeup and toys. My mother went into her room to find that Brooke had gone to the bathroom in a bowl and hide it in the corner. Both number one and two. If that wasn't scary enough for us I found out the she also put glitter makeup on it to see what it looked like. I know that these children have been threw a lot. They had a new mother. (me) Then all of a sudden they lived with there father and myself full time. (there mother said she couldn't handle them)But then she dates this man, and soon after (6 months) tells the kids in the same weekend that she is getting married and having a baby. I too was pregnant at this time with my second. She gave birth the day after me. There is much more, but I would be here all day. I know my husband and myself aren't perfect, but I feel a lot of their problems stem from their mother. We need help. I feel I'm losing this battle. |
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Re: older daughter and defication
From: markvmd-ga on 22 Jan 2006 13:13 PST |
Your problem cannot be solved here. Note that I said "your" problem. There is most likely a family dynamic involved in your daughter's inappropriate elimination and this needs to be addressed promptly by a well-qualified child psychologist. As the family involved is going through complicated relational machinations, it may take a bit of dedication to help your daughter. This sort of widespread, amorphous family intertwining makes shrinks nowadays want to pull out their collective hair, so I've been told (it used to be easy-- blame the mother-- but now there can be several mothers, fathers, relatives, and an assortment of hangers-on to consider!). If your insurance does not cover this therapy or you are unable to afford it, try contacting your child's school psychologist (if there is one) or similar professional at her school to investigate what options are available. Good luck to you and your family. |
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Re: older daughter and defication
From: byrd-ga on 22 Jan 2006 15:49 PST |
Hello myname6652-ga, Unfortunately, markdvmd-ga is right; you're probably not going to find real help for your problem here. However, I can reassure you this is not a terribly uncommon or rare problem. I can also help you put a name to it. It's called "encopresis," which means inappropriate bowel movements, or fecal incontinence. It can be involuntary or voluntary. Involuntary usually is due to physical causes, frequently constipation. However, it sounds like your stepdaughter is exhibiting signs of voluntary encopresis, which usually stems from psychological causes. The fact that she has been under such stress as you describe would underscore that likelihood. Here're a few links to some information on it, so you can read up on it, though I also urge you to get some help. You can start with your family doctor. S/he will certainly be aware of this problem, can help make the diagnosis as to involuntary or voluntary, and assist you in knowing where to take it from there. http://www.minddisorders.com/Del-Fi/Encopresis.html http://tis-group.org/top_soil.html http://www.shands.org/health/information/article/001570.htm I do sympathize with you. I took care of a foster child once who had this problem, and it is very frustrating indeed, I know. But don't blame yourself, or your stepdaughter. That won't help. Just get educated, get some help, and take it one step at a time. It *will* get better; the prognosis is very favorable with treatment. I wish you best of luck. Kindest regards, Byrd-ga |
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Re: older daughter and defication
From: cynthia-ga on 22 Jan 2006 19:03 PST |
To compliment markvmd's premise, I offer this: FECAL SOILING (ENCOPRESIS) [scroll to] Impaired Family Relationships http://www.naspghan.org/sub/Encopresis.htm ..."Attempts to treat encopresis at a purely mechanical level frequently become a constant source of frustration to the family and the health care professional alike. Only in the more simple cases of sudden onset obstipation with overflow incontinence will the maintenance of a clean colon effect an immediate cure. In the majority of cases, by the time the problem has been brought to the surface, psychological and social disruption has already occurred, at times very seriously. Undoing the damage to the child's self-image and dealing with parental anger and ambivalence is not an easy task and requires time, sensitivity, and patience. In certain cases, the child with encopresis can become the scapegoat for more extensive psychological dysfunction in the family. These families should be referred to a competent therapist familiar with the management of this kind of problem. Identifying the factors affecting the normal development of continence and understanding the symbolic role sometimes played by the symptoms of encopresis can be instrumental in planning treatment. Major upheavals in the child's life (death in the family, separation of parents, remarriage and relation with the extended family, birth of a sibling) can be responsible for antisocial behavior, displaced anger, and regression, and can only be corrected by proper intervention. Cases where complex psychopathology underlies the soiling are much more difficult to manage and require a team approach. Unfortunately, the number of therapists who are experienced in the management of encopretic children and their families is small, so that in many communities, the pediatrician or general practitioner will have to assume the main role in directing the care. Experimenting with methods based on charting and rewarding the child for accident-free periods can be useful sometimes and is a way of involving the child and reinforcing his success..." Treatment Guidelines for Primary Nonretentive Encopresis and Stool Toileting Refusal http://www.aafp.org/afp/990415ap/2171.html |
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Re: older daughter and defication
From: cynthia-ga on 22 Jan 2006 19:08 PST |
I forgot to mention above that the outcome of her inappropriate action lead to her "owning" what would normally be flushed. She keeps it, in her bedroom, and makes it "pretty" with glitter, clearly this is demonstrative of this substance being her friend, she wants to keep it. She doesn't want to throw it away. This is way beyond what a parent can handle, take her to a qualifgied therapist ASAP, one that has experience in this type of treatment. You'll need to ask around, only 1-3% of children experience this and only 20% of those are not a result of constipation... |
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Re: older daughter and defication
From: scubajim-ga on 23 Jan 2006 14:40 PST |
Get professional help. Don't blame yourself. There is some pshycological problem going on. The earlier you get help the easier it will be (on all of you) to solve this behavior. Yes, it is frustrating and no there doesn't seem to be any clear solution to the problem. Part of it is a control issue. She can do this behavior and you would have a difficult time to stop her. (not sure stopping her by any direct means would work even if one could figure out how that is even possible.) If you berate her she has won. You can't control people's normal bodily functions. On the other hand, doing nothing doesn't correct whatever the underlying problem is. A competent mental health professional should be able to help your family deal with this. |
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Re: older daughter and defication
From: cynthia-ga on 23 Jan 2006 21:55 PST |
I second the motion (or third, because I strongly implied) --with scubajim... |
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