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Q: Fraud? ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   2 Comments )
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Subject: Fraud?
Category: Business and Money > eCommerce
Asked by: lb_300-ga
List Price: $12.50
Posted: 24 Jan 2006 16:04 PST
Expires: 23 Feb 2006 16:04 PST
Question ID: 437314
Company: CV Comptitus
Owner: Ody Titus
Website: www.comptitus.com 

I am trying to figure out if this company is real. I've corresponded
with someone from this company by the name of Ody Titus who I believe
is the owner of the company. He even sent me his "business
registration" when I requested it. Whether or not it is real, I have
no idea. I've seen a fake one that was listed in another question and
they looked nothing alike. I checked who the website was registered
under and the name, address, and company name all match the
registration I received from Mr. Titus.

I?m not an expert in this fraud area, so I am wondering if there are
any big red flags waving in my face, so I can avoid getting ripped
off.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Fraud?
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 24 Jan 2006 16:59 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear lb_300,

Don't trust them, since are they are without any doubt a scam.

The first thing that appeared most suspicious to me is the fact that,
except for an Indonesian phone number that can belong to anyone, their
website does not reveal contact information. It is always a bad sign
when a company conceals their exact location.

I had a look at the domain registration record. According to it, their
address is Jl. Gajah Mada 121 in Jakarta 10130. I checked this address
using a list with all Indonesian postal codes. The result: There is a
Gajah Mada street in Jakarta, but the part where the number 121 is
located has the postal code 11120, not 10130. Only the house numbers 1
to 26 at the very beginning of the street are still in the 10130
postal code area. Didn't they even know their own company's correct
postal code when they registered  their domain? Rather, I'd say that
someone made up the address for registering the domain using a fake
identity, but that person was careless and did not realize that the
Gajah Mada street runs through four different postal code areas. The
address is a quite clumsy fake.
The telephone number in the domain registration record is
081370722269. That is by no means an Indonesian number. The first
digits, 081, are actually the country code of Japan. Whether the
telephone number is just made up, simply taken from some other source,
or really connected with the fraudster (which I doubt since scammers
do everything to not be traceable) is impossible to say. But it
clearly is not a number that would belong to an Indonesian street
address.

By the way, the domain registration record also reveals that the
domain was registered only on 3 October 2005, and it will already
expire on 3 October 2006.  Scammers usually register their domains for
only one year; they are "disposable" domains they simply abandon once
they don't need them anymore.

The domain registration date 3 October 2005 is also interesting when
compared with what they state on their website: "Our Store  interest
started in 2002..." - and they waited another three years before they
finally registered their company name as a domain for their website?
This is completely unrealistic.

It is also worth noting that this "company" has left only very few
traces on the Web in their alleged four years in business. A Google
search for their company name produces only 31 results, one of them
being their own website, 28 are entries in Business-to-Business
portals where anyone can list a pseudo-company without bein checked
for being legit, and 2 results are warnings in forums that Comptitus
is a scam.

One of the warnings is especially revealing since it quotes what was
stated on their website in October 2005: "We have been developing for
the internet since 2004." The current version of the website says:
"...since 2005." They are adjusting their "company history" - in other
words, they are lying.

Comptitus can't be trusted. They are too shady to be considered a reliable company.

Hope this helps!
Regards,
Scriptor



Sources:

Allwhois Domain Database
http://www.allwhois.com/cgi-bin/allwhois.cgi

Jakarta Postal Codes
http://www.indonesianewsonline.com/prangko/stamps/jakarta.htm

The Wholesale Forums: www.comptitus.com
http://www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-1949.html

Ebay Belgium Forum: Sites frauduleux
http://forums.befr.ebay.be/thread.jspa?threadID=5480&start=207
lb_300-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $2.00
Very good, I had suspicions about this company after reading a few of
the other questions of this nature but lacked the knowledge to do a
detailed check of them. Thank you for the high level of detail in your
search!

Comments  
Subject: Re: Fraud?
From: hypertokyo2-ga on 24 Jan 2006 21:35 PST
 
081- and 085- are common prefix for mobile phones in Indonesia. From
overseas it would be +62 81 XXXX XXXX . You might want to try calling
Mr. Titus!
Subject: Re: Fraud?
From: smokenjoe-ga on 25 Jan 2006 07:30 PST
 
It does not sound like this would help with the titul, but one of the
things I use for companies that are physically coming on site to do
work is insurance certificates. you have the absolute right to ask for
them and insist that they be sent directly from the insurer to you,
then I call the insurer and varify the info, including how long they
have been insured.

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