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Subject: effect on liver
Category: Health > Medicine
Asked by: bowlingb-ga
List Price: $30.00
Posted: 26 Jan 2006 10:22 PST
Expires: 25 Feb 2006 10:22 PST
Question ID: 437955
Would like to know how the ingredients contained in this supplement
can effect on my liver ?

Acidum Phosphoricum 30C: 
Amica Montana 3X: 
Carduus Marianus 3X: 
Damina 3X: 
Deer Antler 6X: 
Galium Aparine 4X: 
Thuja 200C:
Subject: Re: effect on liver
Answered By: crabcakes-ga on 27 Jan 2006 14:52 PST
Hello Bowlingb,

     While there are numerous sites that sell these remedies, there is
a dearth of online information about the ingredients or the effects
they have on humans. They have not been tested by the government, and
suppliers present dubious, unscientific data from uncontrolled
studies.  After reading that most of these are made of weeds and
herbs, my concern would be that they contain herbicides and/or
pesticides, and I also worry about the treatment of the deer.

   I can only take an educated guess, based on my research, that the
remedies above, in such minute quantities, would not harm your liver,
provided you are in good overall health, and have no liver disease. If
you are taking very large amounts, I can?t say with certitude if it
can harm your liver ? even safe medicines can cause harm in large
doses. For some reason, not much information is available on
homeopathic remedies, other than marketing them.

  I would suggest showing these remedies to your doctor and let s/he
determine if you should continue on with them.

  There *is* a large compendium of homeopathic remedy information
available, but it is not free.

?Welcome to the website of the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia Convention of
the United States (HPCUS).
The Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States (HPUS) is the
official compendium for Homeopathic Drugs in the U.S? (Not government
reviewd,related or sponsored.)

?The Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States has been in
continuous publication since 1897, when it was first published by the
Committee on Pharmacy of the American Institute of Homeopathy. Prior
to that, pharmacopoeias had been published by Boericke and Tafel
(1882) and Jahr (1841). In recent years, homeopathy has seen a great
resurgence in the United States, increasing the need for an updated
edition of the HPUS since its last publication in 1982.
In reality, the HPUS has consisted of several different books: the
HPUS Eighth Edition, Volume I (1979); the Compendium of
Homeo-therapeutics (1974); and Supplement "A" of the HPUS Eighth
Edition (1982). This system of three texts caused information to be
difficult to access.?

Deer Antler

Deer antler appears to contain glucosamine and chondroitin, in very
small quantities. This is safe for you to take, although I seriously
doubt if you have acheaived any benefit from it.

?Deer velvet is removed while the deer is under local anaesthetic, by
trained farmers or veterinarians, accredited to a national programme
approved by the Animal Welfare Advisory Council?

?At this point, the antlers are composed of cartilage filled with
nutrient rich tissue, which is covered with fine velvet like hairs.
Removal of this tissue is humanely done with no harm to the deer. The
antlers are then frozen and sent to a processing lab where they are
made into supplements.?

?Additionally, deer antler velvet is rich in glucosamine and
chondroitin, which may have benefits in the treatment of

Acidum Phosphoricum (Phosphoric acid)
This mineral can be toxic and corrosive, in concentrated amounts. The
amount present in such a diluted amount found in homeopathic remedies,
especially in 30C (diluted x 300, but from what concentration?
Concentrations are not regulated and not standard) is not likely to be
toxic to a human liver.

?The drugs under this category are very useful and have a good
medicinal effect. Individual drugs or compounds are taken and
medicines prepared. It also contains elements such as Phosphorous. A
few examples are Calcarea carbonica, (calcium carbonate-CaCo3) ,
Phosphorus (Phosphorus), Calcarea phosphorica (calcium phosphate-Ca3
(PO4)2 ) , Natrum muriaticum, (Sodium chloride-NaCl). Acids are also
included in this category such as Nitric acid (Nitricum acidum)
Phosphoric acid (Acidum phosphoricum),?

Galium aparine ( Catchweed bedstraw)
?This clinging characteristic minimized matting when the plants were
used as a mattress filling, giving rise to the name bedstraw. These
same bristles also aid dispersal by attaching to the hair or wool of
passing animals or people's clothing.?

Catchweed bedstraw and related plants are increasing as problems in
cropland in the Pacific Northwest. The primary problem isn't
competition with crops but difficulty in harvesting when bedstraw
becomes tangled with the crop or equipment.?

Amica Montana
?Arnica Flower Oil is steam distilled from the flowers of Amica
Montana, a perennial plant which grows wild in many parts of Northern
and Central Europe, Scandinavia and USSR. Arnica Flower Oil is a
yellow orange or greenish blue liquid of herbaceous sweet, tea like
and spicy odor resembling that of chamomile.?


?Damiana (Turnera Aphrodisiaca) is primarily used for treating female
disorders, sexual stimulant for men & women, infertility, menopause,
PMS, hormonal imbalances, prostate disorders, depression, bronchitis,
fatigue, nervous debility, anxiety and as a reproductive system

Genus :
Species :
aphrodisiaca; diffusa

?Common Names: Damiana, damiane, oreganillo, the bourrique, Mexican
damiana, Mexican holly, damiana de Guerrero
Parts Used: Aerial parts, leaves?

Damiana is not assessed for safety.

Carduus marianus
Milk Thistle is one of the 'Carduus' thistles - 'Carduus marianus',
also known as 'Silybum marianus'. It has been used to benefit health
for at least 2000 years. The Roman Pliny wrote of the beneficial
effects of Milk Thistle on the Liver. And it was highly regarded by
Dioscorides, Galen, Gerard and Culpepper.

The main reason for the popularity of Milk Thistle is that it
supposedly protects the Liver, and improves its function. In addition,
there are no contra-indications known for Milk Thistle.

Milk Thistle has been shown in laboratory experiments to protect the
Liver against attack by carbon tetrachloride - a strong poison found
in some household cleaners; and against Death Cap mushroom - which can
be fatal if eaten. Such results highlight its protective abilities.
The most active parts of Milk Thistle appear to be a group of agents
known collectively as 'Silymarin'.?

?In European gardens the plant has been cultivated as a vegetable. It
was still grown in old-fashioned British gardens at the end of the
nineteenth century (Henderson, 1889). The young leaves (with spines
removed) were used in spring salads and as a spinach substitute. Young
stalks, peeled and soaked, are eaten like asparagus. The roots, soaked
in water overnight to remove bitterness, are eaten like salsify. Milk
thistle's flower receptacle, resembling an artichoke, was cooked and
eaten like artichokes (Hedrick, 1919; Grieve, 193 1). Roasted seeds
have been employed as a coffee substitute (Uphof, 1968). Adverse
effects from ingesting any plant part are generally lacking from the
literature. Animal experiments have shown that seed extracts are safe,
even in large doses, with practically no side effects, as well as no
embryo toxic effect (Weiss, 1988). Adverse effects in human studies
with the seed extract (silymarin) are also generally absent (Der
Marderosian and Liberti, 1988). A mild laxative effect has been
observed in isolated cases (Blumenthal, et al., 1996).?

Thuja is the botanical name for arborvitae.

?Minor Toxicity: Ingestion of these plants may cause minor illnesses
such as vomiting or diarrhea. If ingested, call the Poison Control
Center or your doctor.?

?Dermatitis: The juice, sap, or thorns of these plants may cause a
skin rash or irritation. Wash the affected area of skin with soap and
water as soon as possible after contact. The rashes may be very
serious and painful. Call the Poison Control Center or your doctor if
symptoms appear following contact with the plants.?

About homeopathic remedies

?Homeopathic remedies are considered one of the safest preparations in
use, worldwide. They have virtually no side effects and can be used in
conjunction with medicines.? It has been said they have no side
effects because they have no effects!

?Homeopathic "remedies" enjoy a unique status in the health
marketplace: They are the only category of quack products legally
marketable as drugs. This situation is the result of two
circumstances. First, the 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act,
which was shepherded through Congress by a homeopathic physician who
was a senator, recognizes as drugs all substances included in the
Homeopathic Pharmacopeia of the United States. Second, the FDA has not
held homeopathic products to the same standards as other drugs. Today
they are marketed in health-food stores, in pharmacies, in
practitioner offices, by multilevel distributors [A], through the
mail, and on the Internet.?

?Homeopathic products are made from minerals, botanical substances,
and several other sources. If the original substance is soluble, one
part is diluted with either nine or ninety-nine parts of distilled
water and/or alcohol and shaken vigorously (succussed); if insoluble,
it is finely ground and pulverized in similar proportions with
powdered lactose (milk sugar). One part of the diluted medicine is
then further diluted, and the process is repeated until the desired
concentration is reached. Dilutions of 1 to 10 are designated by the
Roman numeral X (1X = 1/10, 3X = 1/1,000, 6X = 1/1,000,000).
Similarly, dilutions of 1 to 100 are designated by the Roman numeral C
(1C = 1/100, 3C = 1/1,000,000, and so on). Most remedies today range
from 6X to 30X, but products of 30C or more are marketed.?

?Oscillococcinum, a 200C product "for the relief of colds and flu-like
symptoms," involves "dilutions" that are even more far-fetched. Its
"active ingredient" is prepared by incubating small amounts of a
freshly killed duck's liver and heart for 40 days. The resultant
solution is then filtered, freeze-dried, rehydrated, repeatedly
diluted, and impregnated into sugar granules. If a single molecule of
the duck's heart or liver were to survive the dilution, its
concentration would be 1 in 100?

I found this additional information for you, n other homepopathic remedies:

"Consumers Warned Not to Use Comfrey Products; May Cause Liver Damage

Helen Branswell, December 12, 2003

"Toronto (CP) - Health Canada issued an advisory Friday warning
consumers not to use the herb comfrey or any health products made from
comfrey because they might contain a compound that could cause liver

The compound is echimidine. While not all comfrey products contain
echimidine, some products do not specify the type of comfrey they
contain.  "Therefore, consumers are advised to avoid all products
containing comfrey,'' the department said in a statement. "

In animals: " Homeopathy is a system of medicine that utilizes
micro-doses of natural substances -- herbs, bark, seeds, berries,
flowers, minerals and animal matter. Unlike powerful pharmaceutical
drugs, homeopathic remedies do not create side-effects. The use of
conventional drugs and preparations often means the risk of side
effects. In some cases, the "cure" is worse than the problem."

Here's an article on how homeopathic remedies are made:


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Regards, Crabcakes

Search Terms
Homeopathic Pharmacopeia
Compendium of Homeotherapeutic
Homeopathic monographs
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Homeopathic remedies + ingredients
thuja OR arborvitae + toxic + liver
Deer antler + homeopathic
Acidum Phosphoricum  
Amica Montana  homeopathic remedies + adverse effects
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