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Subject:
HP printer deskjet model 5650- no power light problem
Category: Computers > Hardware Asked by: kag5-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
07 Dec 2004 22:40 PST
Expires: 06 Jan 2005 22:40 PST Question ID: 439702 |
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Re: HP printer deskjet model 5650- no power light problem
From: guzzi-ga on 08 Dec 2004 18:45 PST |
Could you clarify what you mean by the power cable. Are these voltages from a cable mounted power supply or is it raw mains? The ?click? is likely to be a fuse -- but why it blew? Old fuses do spontaneously blow, even new ones sometimes, but more often there is a reason. Not usually the sort of thing which can be fixed without expert knowledge I?m afraid. If you can clarify, we can take it from there. Best |
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Re: HP printer deskjet model 5650- no power light problem
From: kag5-ga on 09 Dec 2004 01:00 PST |
The power cable has a black box at one end that one plugs directly into 120V AC socket and at the other end is a small 3- point socket that one plugs into the printer. As per the inscriptions on the black box, at the printer end the voltages are 16VDc and 32V Dc with center socket as common. These are the input voltages into the printer. I was able to open the main enclosure and peer in to see any obvious damage. There weren't any that I could discern. The guts were too intriuging and daunting for me to figure out if there was any fuse at all! The printer is just over a year old (as warranty luck would have it!) and it was sparingly used. Just prior to the incident I noticed the "ink cartridge empty" message on my screen as I clicked for printing a document. Could empty ink cartridge cause such a problem? Thinking it be farfetched I haven't tried inserting a new ink cartridge. The old cartridge is presently out and the problem still persists i.e printer is dead. |
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Re: HP printer deskjet model 5650- no power light problem
From: guzzi-ga on 09 Dec 2004 17:49 PST |
Unusual for a dual voltage o/p PSU on a printer. Glad you managed to get it apart. Sometimes I?ve struggled for fifteen minutes trying to figure out where to slide a finger nail. From what you say, it sounds like there is an overload cut-out on the PSU. Unusual again. ?Ink out? wouldn?t kill, though having no cartridge might look like it?s dead. But that doesn?t explain the PSU cutting out. There is a possibility that the measured voltages, although correct, are just residual bleed voltages and the thing can?t supply current. If you have equipment, try the voltages with a bit of load -- preferably a resistor but low wattage flashlight light bulbs in series would do. Are you familiar with ohm?s law, bearing in mind that the resistance of a cold bulb is a small fraction of the hot resistance. You could also see if the voltage drops with conduction through wet fingers to the common. Is the PSU a heavy lump or is it quite light? I looked up HP but the info wasn?t given. If it?s heavy, it?s a transformer with rectifier and perhaps regulator etc. If it?s light, it?s switch mode, far more complex. Does the PSU unscrew or is the case bonded? You have tested it out on a different outlet I presume? But I?m inclined to think it?s the printer itself and since it disables the PSU there is likely to be a short circuit on one of the inputs. Can you measure with a DVM? This is difficult for you without specific expertise, but you?ve nothing to lose so I?m game if you are. Best |
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Re: HP printer deskjet model 5650- no power light problem
From: guzzi-ga on 20 Dec 2004 18:03 PST |
That?s unfortunately the way it goes:-( Reason for the supply not appearing to go anywhere BTW, in case you don?t know, is that it was probably a multilayer board. Tracks inside. Boards are commonly now 8 layers and more. Sorry for your loss. Out of curiosity you could buzz out the pin to components and you never know..... Best |
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