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Tilt of the Earth
Category: Science > Astronomy Asked by: halfmiler9-ga List Price: $8.00 |
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02 Feb 2006 10:55 PST
Expires: 04 Mar 2006 10:55 PST Question ID: 440555 |
Who first figured out that Earth's seasons are caused by the tilt of the Earth, and in or around what year did they do it? |
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Re: Tilt of the Earth
From: canadianhelper-ga on 02 Feb 2006 11:07 PST |
Although used in earlier time, such as for sun dials...the quantification of the tilt of the earth seems to be answered here (astronmer at Cornell): http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=245 Who (and when) discovered that the earth's axis is on a 23 degree tilt? Astronomers define a coordinate system on the sky that lets them identify the relative positions of stars, planets, the Sun and other celestial phenomena (the coordinates are called "right ascension" and "declination", but we don't need to worry about that here). Because of their great distance from the Earth, the positions of most stars are fixed on the grid. The positions of the planets and the Sun, however, are seen to "travel" through the coordinate grid in systematic (though sometimes complicated) patterns. The paths of the planets was carefully observed by Tycho Brahe in the late 1500s. Following Brahe's death in 1601, Johannes Kepler used the data to develop a set of laws that govern the way the planets move around the Sun (he proposed them in 1609). These laws, (creatively) called Kepler's Laws, still hold today. With Kepler's laws in hand, one can easily interpret the motion of the Sun through the coordinate grid described above as the result of the tilt of the Earth by 23.5 degrees with respect to the plane in which the Earth orbits the Sun. Since Kepler was the one to correctly interpret the motion of the planets and the Sun through the sky, he is the one that I would attribute the title "Discoverer of the 23.5 degree tilt", in the early 1600s. Here, for what it is worth, is the wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler Also books on Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?as_q=&num=10&ie=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_brr=0&as_vt=&as_auth=Johannes+Kepler&as_pub=&as_drrb=c&as_miny=&as_maxy=&as_isbn= |
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Re: Tilt of the Earth
From: canadianhelper-ga on 02 Feb 2006 11:12 PST |
With regards to the seasons and tilt specifically... The procession of the Equinoxes was quantified by : # Discovered by Hipparchus of Nicaea (c. 150BC), but may have been known to the Babylonians. Source: http://www-astronomy.mps.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast161/Unit2/seasons.html Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipparchus_of_Nicaea |
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Re: Tilt of the Earth
From: halfmiler9-ga on 02 Feb 2006 12:21 PST |
Thanks for the help, but I had this information already. It's not the degrees of tilt I'm interested in, but rather the revelation that the tilt causes the seasons. The Babylonians sounds more reasonable, but that is what I'd like to narrow down. No doubt that Kepler and Hipparchus are correct, but not quite what i'm looking for. Thanks for the input. |
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Re: Tilt of the Earth
From: youghfool-ga on 02 Feb 2006 17:07 PST |
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/Giants/Milankovitch/milankovitch_3.html I believe you will be interested in reading about Serbian astronomer Milutin Milankovitch. He may not have been the first to recognize the relationship, but he was able to correlate seasonal variations directly to changes in the tilting of the planet's axis. His data is still used today to correlate seasonal variations to geological time. |
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Re: Tilt of the Earth
From: pugwashjw65-ga on 03 Feb 2006 03:11 PST |
GENESIS 8;22 [ . 22 For all the days the earth continues, seed sowing and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night, will never cease.?]. From the Bible indicates that it was known right from Moses' time. Certainlt the early Egyptians knew a whole lot of astronomy. Their pyramids are based on angles and alignments. So were the druids of Stonehenge fame. |
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Re: Tilt of the Earth
From: halfmiler9-ga on 06 Feb 2006 07:05 PST |
Thanks again for the help. The excerpt from the Bible, however, shows that the seasons are recognized, but nothing regarding their relationship to the tilt of the Earth. |
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Re: Tilt of the Earth
From: griest-ga on 13 Feb 2006 02:56 PST |
You asked who figured out the seasons are due to the tilt of the Earth. I think the answer depends on what you mean by ?tilt?. The normal meaning, that the Earth?s spin axis is 23.5 degrees from its orbital axis, really can?t be given unless one realizes that the Earth goes around the Sun. As the Earth orbits, the tilt is preserved by conservation of angular momentum and that means the days are longer when the axis points toward the Sun; during the season we call Summer. Thus, with this meaning of tilt, the answer would have to be Kepler in the early 1600?s; unless the Greeks (who early-on theorized the Earth circles the Sun) wrote on this. In fact, it may well be those Greeks since the answer is obvious once you have the Earth orbiting the Sun. However, the fact that days in summer are longer because of the ?tilt? of the Sun?s orbit through the sky was known since antiquity (before the Babylonians), so if you mean that by tilt then this knowledge was pre-historical. (All farmers know how the Sun moves through the sky during the different seasons; its motion is ?tilted?.) |
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