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how long will utilities function in an extended power outage?
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: stephml-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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03 Feb 2006 13:05 PST
Expires: 05 Mar 2006 13:05 PST Question ID: 441039 |
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Re: how long will utilities function in an extended power outage?
From: kbrowntx47-ga on 04 Feb 2006 20:34 PST |
Phones might last indefinitely. Make sure one of yours is a plain old corded phone -- not needing batteries or power supply. Water pressure will drop once the elevated tanks/standpipes go dry. Cities might be able to pump enough for bare essentials -- drinking, cooking, 'necessary' flushing, but might choose not to do it due to contamination liability. Have water purification tablets for suspect water. Or boil in a pressure cooker for 20-30 min. Electrcity is normally restored to utilities, hospitals, etc. first, when possible. You don't give your location. If you live in multifamily housing, keep seven to ten days supply of water, canned /dry food, medicines (always re-order Rx before you run low). Plan to cook using your camp stove (with fuel) on the balcony. If you live in single-family dwelling in the city, add a gen-set and plenty of fuel. Make sure it has good capacity and is REALLY QUIET, lest your neighbors become furious. Plan to share some electricity twice daily for their freezers. Have 14-gauge extension cords with appropriate recepticles to get the power where you need it. DO NOT EVER run the genset indoors! Have a shotgun with #2 or BB shot. If you live in rural area, you have more options. Add a rifle if you are capable with it. |
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Re: how long will utilities function in an extended power outage?
From: kbrowntx47-ga on 05 Feb 2006 21:43 PST |
Sorry, I overlooked the no re-fuel part. The telcom exchanges obviously have generators, but I do not know how much fuel they have on hand. Probably enough for several hours; perhaps a day or so. But if the devastation to an area were so bad that they could not replenish, then probably a few days or a week at best. But that is conjecture on my part. Maybe someone who works for water & telcom utilities will comment. You might try calling some. You also mentioned how long utilities would stay on if there were no workers to operate them. The phone back-up generators could kick on automatically, but if there were no operators to keep things going, they could go down anytime. A water utility would be even quicker to go down with no one to make decisions; no one to turn valves, start pumps, etc. They tend to be less automated. If any of these outfits were evacuating ALL personnel in advance of a hazard, they wouild likely shut it down in an orderly fashion, to make later start-up easier. They would not be prone to leave things running unattended. Hope this helps. I worked for a major engineering/construction company who design & build offshore platforms, remote tanker ports, pipelines, etc., all of which have their own utilities and/or back-up systems, with operating procedures. |
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Re: how long will utilities function in an extended power outage?
From: kbrowntx47-ga on 05 Feb 2006 21:58 PST |
Virtually all water utilities have towers. Small towns have the obvious one on the hill; big cities have several, but they are less obvious, as they are spread around and painted sky blue. The towers are there primarily to maintain the proper pressure, not to store a lot of water for future use. The utility turns pumps on & off to meet demand. When all the pumps quit at once, the tanks run dry quickly. As the water level drops down the standpipe part of the tower, the pressure drops rapidly. A water system will have many wells with pumps geographically spread around putting water into the network of pipes at various places as needed. The towers are fewer, and are placed where needed to best keep pressures uniform. Water flows to and from the towers as needed. The mainline near your house may have water flowing toward the tower at 0400, but with few pumps running; but flowing away from the tower at 0700, with all pumps running, when demand is high. |
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Re: how long will utilities function in an extended power outage?
From: kbrowntx47-ga on 08 Feb 2006 19:09 PST |
Just curious, were my answers helpful, and did you find more specific info from utilities or elsewhere? Are you writing a novel or a non-fiction. I have helped a novelist before, which may be my only contribution to literature. KB in Houston |
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Re: how long will utilities function in an extended power outage?
From: stephml-ga on 09 Feb 2006 06:21 PST |
KB: I'm writing a novel (In my free time around work... which doesn't leave much time for extensive research.) Your answers are very helpful! I have not found any more specific information yet, but you've given me enough that I honestly may not need more. None of my characters would know the details about how utilities function... I just need to know if their phones and water work or not. ;) I will leave the question posted just in case I get some interesting detail that I can include, but you have definitely fulfilled your second contribution to literature! I will include "KB in Houston" in my acknowledgements. (Seriously!) I'll have to pay more attention and see if I can find those missing water towers. :) |
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Re: how long will utilities function in an extended power outage?
From: citymgr-ga on 26 Feb 2006 14:38 PST |
As City Manager for a municipality ont he west coast of Florida I can tell you that our water plant has a generator with a reserve for 3 full days of continuous operation. During seasonal hurricanes we keep an additional 4 days supply and have an agreement that makes us a priority receiver of fuel shipments when supplies are reinstated. When running on generators there is no difference from normal operations. Possible contamination comes from a large drop in pressure or stagnation of water in lines. Here in Florida there is another problem besides water... that is the transport of sewage. Since our flat lands do not allow for gravity feed of sewage waste, lift stations are installed to keep the waste flowing. Most lift stations for sewage treatment do not have back-up generators to pump the waste to a treatment facility. We utilize portable generators that are transported on trailers to the various lift stations to keep waste flowing. Hope this helps with your research. |
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Re: how long will utilities function in an extended power outage?
From: stephml-ga on 01 Mar 2006 15:29 PST |
That's very helpful, citymgr! I had no idea about the sewage problem, and it's great to have solid information about the water plant, especially since you are in my area. Thanks! |
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Re: how long will utilities function in an extended power outage?
From: kbrowntx47-ga on 03 Mar 2006 22:14 PST |
Glad you finally got some good info from someone who knows. KB, Houston |
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