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Q: Experience with Irish Art Associates as a source of art, eg. sign lithographs? ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
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Subject: Experience with Irish Art Associates as a source of art, eg. sign lithographs?
Category: Arts and Entertainment
Asked by: alonzo1776-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 13 Dec 2004 09:37 PST
Expires: 12 Jan 2005 09:37 PST
Question ID: 442026
Concerning the possible purchase of a signed Miro lithograph from this
eBay seller. I can't find anything about this business on the web.  Is
this an
established business?? at the address in CELBRIDGE, CO .KILDARE. IRELAND?
Is there a street or place there called CRODAUN FOREST PARK?
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Subject: Re: Experience with Irish Art Associates as a source of art, eg. sign lithographs?
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 13 Dec 2004 10:37 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear alonzo1776,

This is what I found out a result of my research concerning Irish Art Associates:


-- The Location --

A street named Crodaun Forest Park does indeed exist in the Irish town
of Celbridge, County Kildare. And it does also have a property with
the street number 146 (for the importance of that number, see below),
as a 2001 document of the Kildare County Council shows:
"To consider extension of Right of Way between 145 and 146 Crodaun
Forest Park, Celbidge."
http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/CorporateAffairs/CorporateServices/Meetings/CelbridgeArea/2002/Minutes/file,5189,en.DOC


-- Irish Art Associates --

Web research revealed that Irish Art Associates maintain a website:
http://www.irishartassociates.com/

However, the broken visitors counter in the lower left corner appeared
suspicious to me; it looked more neglected than a reputable art
dealer's website should look. So I compared the site with its older
versions, stored by the Wayback Machine Internet Archive:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.irishartassociates.com

The comparison showed that the website has obviously not been updated
since 2001 - not even the "latest catalogue" section has seen any
changes. This is most unusual for a company whose range of available
artworks would change permanently as a result of selling and acquiring
items.

I countinued my research by looking for the owner of the website
address in the Allwhois database. I found out that this is the
registrant of irishartassociates.com:

Registrant:
Irish Art Associates
146, Crodaun Forest Park
Celbridge, Co Kildare
IE

Administrative Contact:
Brown, Patrick
info@IRISHARTASSOCIATES.COM
Irish Art Associates
13 Adelaide Rd, Dublin 2
Dublin
IE
Phone: +353 1 4784678
Fax: +353 1 4784679

Record expires on 11-Jan-2005.
Record created on 11-Jan-2000

Although the registrant's name, phone and fax number and the Dublin
address match with the data provided on the website, I remain
suspicious. Neither one Patrick Brown nor Irish Art Associates are
listed in the Irish Telephone Directory or in the Irish Yellow Pages.

And, what is more: There is no company or business name "Irish Art
Associates" listed in the database of the Irish Companies Registration
Office:
http://www.cro.ie/search/

Because of those suspicious facts, I must advise caution when dealing
with someone who claims to be Irish Art Associates.


Sources:

Allwhois Domain Database
http://www.allwhois.com/cgi-bin/allwhois.cgi

Irish Telephone Directory
http://www.goldenpages.ie/extra/phonebook.html

Irish Yellow Pages
http://www.goldenpages.ie/Search.asp


Hope this is useful!
Best regards,
Scriptor
alonzo1776-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
great.  You just saved me close to $500.

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Subject: Re: Experience with Irish Art Associates as a source of art, eg. sign lithographs?
From: kriswrite-ga on 27 Jan 2005 08:57 PST
 
Clearly, Scriptor has done extensive research in order to answer this question.

Kriswrite

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