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Subject: Tracing a Couple who married in the UK 1941 and who may have emigrated to the US
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: probonopublico-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 07 Feb 2006 06:31 PST
Expires: 18 Feb 2006 00:48 PST
Question ID: 442587
The woman (b 1910) married a man (b 1912) in London in 1941. At the
time, he was desribed as a 'Gunner R.A.' - presumably Royal Artillery.
Curiously, he appears to have emigrated to the US from Ireland in
1933.

It is believed that they both went to live in the US but the woman's
nephew and her grand niece have been unable to trace.

Likely as not they are both dead but I can't find any trace following
their marriage in any genealogical searches.

Has anybody got any GREAT IDEAS?

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 07 Feb 2006 06:56 PST
Hello Brian.

Have you checked the SSDI already...that's the first place I would turn to.

Beyond that, it would be a big help to know where you've hunted
already, so we don't end up offering suggestions for sources you've
already tried.


paf

Clarification of Question by probonopublico-ga on 07 Feb 2006 07:23 PST
No, Paf, I haven't searched the SSDI. A link would be appreciated.

I've used Ancestry.com and 1837online.com (being a subscriber to both).

And that's all.

All the Best

Bryan

Clarification of Question by probonopublico-ga on 07 Feb 2006 07:29 PST
Have now searched the SSDI and I found NOWT!
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There is no answer at this time.

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Subject: Re: Tracing a Couple who married in the UK 1941 and who may have emigrated to the US
From: omnivorous-ga on 07 Feb 2006 07:36 PST
 
Bryan --

The SSDI is here:
http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693

Some things that may help you in the search:
*  the last U.S. Census that's available is the 1930 Census.  The 1940
Census won't be released until April 1, 2012:
http://1930census.archives.gov/beginSearch.asp
*  Researcher Stephen Morse keeps an excellent index of genealogical resources:
http://stevemorse.org/
*  If any of the family were ever naturalized, you should pursue all
of the immigration documents via a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)
request with
immigration.  It's a wealth of family background & information.

You have to request a copy of the "Petition for Naturalization" and
"Certificate of Naturalization" from the Immigration and
Naturalization Service using a 'Freedom of Information Act' (FOIA)
request.  This process takes 4-6 months and undoubtedly will be
expedited if you provided a stamped return envelope:

U.S. Department of Justice 
"FOIA Request Form"
http://uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/g-639.htm

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA
Subject: Re: Tracing a Couple who married in the UK 1941 and who may have emigrated to the US
From: probonopublico-ga on 07 Feb 2006 07:52 PST
 
Hi Omni

Very many thanks for your suggestions but still no luck!

It's always possible that they were killed en route to the US during WWII.

I'm not even sure what their nationalities were.

She was born in Tsarkskoye Selo - would you believe? - but as far as I
know never took out British nationality although she lived in the UK
from 1913 onwards.

I bet that even with your navigational skills you couldn't land your 747 there.

He was probably born in Ireland and emigrated to the US in 1933 (Well
a man of that name is listed.)

But how he came to be a Gunner in the RA takes some fathoming.

Maybe it was the Royal Academy?

Still searching.

All the Best

Bryan
Subject: Re: Tracing a Couple who married in the UK 1941 and who may have emigrated to the US
From: probonopublico-ga on 08 Feb 2006 07:09 PST
 
Omni

Still no luck but, because you provided some great links, please post
your comment as a great answer.

Many thanks

Bryan
Subject: Re: Tracing a Couple who married in the UK 1941 and who may have emigrated to the US
From: omnivorous-ga on 08 Feb 2006 07:22 PST
 
Bryan --

Thanks for the invite but let's see if someone else comes up with
anything else valuable.

Besides, I still owe you one for the answer to the Hess Letters question:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=371670

Best regards,

O.
Subject: Re: Tracing a Couple who married in the UK 1941 and who may have emigrated to the US
From: probonopublico-ga on 08 Feb 2006 23:20 PST
 
Thank you, O, for everything!

B
Subject: Re: Tracing a Couple who married in the UK 1941 and who may have emigrated to th
From: leli-ga on 11 Feb 2006 01:38 PST
 
Bryan

Could the relatives chase up one small piece of the puzzle by asking
to see the gunner's service records?
http://www.veteransagency.mod.uk/service_recs/service%20_recs_army.htm

Good luck - Leli
Subject: Re: Tracing a Couple who married in the UK 1941 and who may have emigrated to the US
From: probonopublico-ga on 11 Feb 2006 11:10 PST
 
Hi Leli

Great to hear from you again.

It's a nice idea but I went down that same route a couple of days ago and no joy.

The records are available to next-of-kin who can prove that their
ancestor is dead but death is not presumed unless the veteran was born
before 1880.

(Apparently, the Navy are more helpful and the Air Force less so.)

However, perhaps you can help me find a wee Scots lassie who could
infiltrate the place and (wink, wink).

All the Best

Bryan

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