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Subject: Social Security number for nonworking alien
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: russtorres2000-ga
List Price: $100.00
Posted: 19 Dec 2004 18:43 PST
Expires: 21 Dec 2004 10:35 PST
Question ID: 444882
1. can a non working alien get a US social security number. Could you
refer a least 50 FEDERAL LAWS that require a non working alien must
have a social security number, for receving a federal service or
federal benefits????

2. Could you refer a least 40 FLORIDA STATE LAW PLUS 40 NEW YORK STATE
LAW   that require a non working alien must have a social security
number, for receving a STATE OR LOCAL (Miami or New York city
Manhatan) service or federal benefits????

3. I am not interested in getting an US EIN, ITIN or Taxpayer ID
Number. I want a US social security number for non working alien.

4. I live in Costa Rica, in Central America, and almost all the banks
or merchant account companies processor ask a SSN for receiving theier
services, specially in the web sites or by phone. If i dont have a
legal SSN, i must go to the banks or merchant accounts in person. I
dont have time for doing this.

5. Important reference links

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=414&p_created=973093730&p_sid=RZ27Wpth&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTImcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9jYXRfbHZsMT0xNiZwX2NhdF9sdmwyPTMwJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=

and contains

Question 
  Can a noncitizen obtain a Social Security number to get a drivers license? 
 
  Answer 
  No. Effective October 27, 2003 we do not assign an SSN when your
only reason for needing an SSN is to comply with a state statute
requiring an SSN for the issuance of a driver?s license.

SSA will currently issue SSNs to noncitizens who are not otherwise
eligible for SSNs for the following nonwork purposes:

A Federal statute or regulation requires that the alien provide
his/her SSN to get the particular benefit or service; or
A State or local law requires the alien to provide his/her SSN to get
general assistance benefits to which the alien has established
entitlement.

 
another link

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=83&p_created=955478917&p_sid=RZ27Wpth&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTImcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9jYXRfbHZsMT0xNiZwX2NhdF9sdmwyPTMwJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=

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 How do non-working legal aliens get a Social Security number? 
 
  Question 
  I am lawfully admitted to the US who is not allowed to work, but I
still need a Social Security Number. How do I obtain one?
 
  Answer 
  Many entities routinely ask for a person?s Social Security number
under the assumption that everyone has one. However, if you are
lawfully admitted to the U.S. but do not have work authorization, you
must have a valid nonwork reason for needing a Social Security number
before we can assign you one.

SSA will currently issue SSNs to noncitizens who are not otherwise
eligible for SSNs for the following nonwork purposes:

- A Federal statute or regulation requires that the noncitizen provide
his/her SSN to get the particular benefit or service; or - A State or
local law requires the alien to provide his/her SSN to get public
assistance benefits to which the noncitizen has established
entitlement.

NOTE: Effective October 27, 2003 we do not assign an SSN when your
only reason for needing an SSN is to comply with a state statute
requiring an SSN for the issuance of a driver?s license. Under these
circumstances the application for an SSN must be accompanied by
documentation from the appropriate government entity explaining the
need for the SSN. The documentation must be dated and on letterhead
stationery. It must specifically identify the noncitizen, the nonwork
reason for which an SSN is required, the relevant statute or
regulation, and the name and telephone number of an official to
contact so that the information provided may be verified. It should
state that the noncitizen completed all the requirements to receive
the benefit/service except for an SSN.

If you believe that you qualify for a Social Security Number based on
the above, you may obtain an application from
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ss-5.html.

 To Apply for a Social Security Number--

? Download the form to apply for a Social Security card at
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ss-5.html;  or
? Call or visit one of our offices to apply for a number (1-800-772-1213); and
? Provide original documents showing your age, identity and lawful
alien status (including your permission to work in the U.S.). You must
provide at least two documents.

If you?re a noncitizen, we must verify your documents with the
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) before we issue a SSN card. We
will issue the card within two days of receiving verification from
DHS. Most of the time, we can quickly verify your documents online
with DHS. If DHS can?t verify your documents online, it may take
several weeks or months to respond to Social Security's request.

For more details, please see the answer to the Frequently Asked
Question, How is SSA protecting Social Security numbers? If you don't
have permission to work, but still need a number for one of the
reasons mentioned above, you must provide a statement on letterhead
stationery from the government agency that is requiring you to provide
an SSN.

The letter must?

? specifically identify you as the applicant;
? cite the law requiring you to have a Social Security number; and
? indicate that you meet all the agency's requirements to get the
benefit or service except for having an SSN.

If you are assigned a number for nonwork purposes, you can't use it to
work. If you use it to work, we may inform DHS.

If You Need a Number for Tax Purposes, What Should You Do?
Beginning July 1, 1996, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) began
assigning Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITINs) to
noncitizens who need to report income for tax purposes but who are not
eligible for Social Security numbers. To apply for an ITIN, you need
to contact the IRS and ask for Form W-7 (Application for IRS
Individual Taxpayer Identification Number).

You can contact IRS by:

? Calling the IRS toll-free number, 1-800-829-1040; or
? Accessing the IRS web site at: http://www.irs.gov; or
? Calling or visiting any local IRS office; or ? Writing them at: IRS
ITIN Unit P.O. Box 447 Bensalem, PA 19020
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Comments  
Subject: Re: Social Security number for nonworking alien
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Dec 2004 19:00 PST
 
You are asking someone to look up 130 laws, which may take several
days of work. In order to have a chance of getting an answer, you may
want to raise your price considerably, or greatly reduce the number of
legal citations that you require.
Subject: Re: Social Security number for nonworking alien
From: russtorres2000-ga on 19 Dec 2004 19:45 PST
 
How do I raise your price or ammount in the system????
Subject: Re: Social Security number for nonworking alien
From: russtorres2000-ga on 19 Dec 2004 19:52 PST
 
Ok, i raised your price. Could you provide the 130 laws that your
telling PLUS OR AND, (Federal laws, New York city Manhantan New York
and Miami Florida for getting a social security number for non??????
I understand that you need some days for doing the job. No problem, Do it sir.
Subject: Re: Social Security number for nonworking alien
From: russtorres2000-ga on 19 Dec 2004 19:55 PST
 
Ok, i raised your price. Could you provide the 130 laws that your
telling PLUS OR AND, (Federal laws, New York city Manhantan New York
and Miami Florida for getting a US social security number for an ALIEN
with NONWORKING PURPOSES??????
I understand that you need some days for doing the job. No problem, Do it Sir.
Subject: Re: Social Security number for nonworking alien
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Dec 2004 19:55 PST
 
I did not mean to imply that I am working on your question. I merely
wanted to assist you in enhancing your chances of getting an answer.
The price increase may help.
Subject: Re: Social Security number for nonworking alien
From: russtorres2000-ga on 19 Dec 2004 20:25 PST
 
to Resume, provide me

1. Your 130 laws:
a. at least 50 FEDERAL LAWS that require a non working alien must
have a social security number

b. at least 40 FLORIDA STATE LAW PLUS 40 NEW YORK STATE
LAW   that require a non working alien must have a social security
number, for receving a STATE OR LOCAL (Miami or New York city
Manhatan) service or federal benefits
Subject: Re: Social Security number for nonworking alien
From: russtorres2000-ga on 19 Dec 2004 20:29 PST
 
will you do the task??? i Raised the price.
Subject: Re: Social Security number for nonworking alien
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Dec 2004 20:33 PST
 
Please do not misunderstand. This is not the kind of question that I
am good at; my remarks about the price were made because I thought a
higher price would be helpful in attracting a Researcher, not because
I intended to work on this project. Your question is fully open for
any and all Google Answers Researchers.

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