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Subject: First transatlantic transmission of a visual material
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: can1972-ga
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Posted: 30 Dec 2004 04:32 PST
Expires: 02 Jan 2005 08:11 PST
Question ID: 449161
When was the first transatlantic (between the UK and the US)
transmission of visual material, ie. a picture? Who / which company
made this transmission? What was the content?
This was probably through the cable in the ocean between the UK and the US.

Clarification of Question by can1972-ga on 30 Dec 2004 04:37 PST
Clarification: I am interested in the first transmission of a picture
for e.g. print purposes and not radio or television transmissions.
i.e. the first step from text messages to graphics.
Thank you for your interest.
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Subject: Re: First transatlantic transmission of a visual material
From: fp-ga on 01 Jan 2005 11:44 PST
 
"1926
A commercial radio link for facsimile working is opened between the
London office of the Marconi Wireless and Telegraph Company and the
New York office of the RCA"
http://aronsson.se/hist.html

"In 1926 a commercial radio link for facsimile working was opened
between the London office of the Marconi Wireless and Telegraph
Company, and the New York office of the RCA"
http://www.hffax.de/history/index.html

The first facsimile was transmitted from London to Paris in 1907:
"1907 - International fax 
It took 12 minutes to transmit a picture of King Edward VII over the
London to Paris telephone circuit using early facsimile equipment"
http://www.btexact.com/print_preview?doc=42003

"Facsimile telegraphy was introduced in the nineteen twenties.
Photographs were scanned by a photocell and copied onto photosensitive
paper by means of a controlled light source at the receiving end. In
1927, the Berlin-Vienna route went into operation using the
Siemens-Karolus-Telefunken system. This new way of transmitting
photographs was used in particular by the press":
http://w4.siemens.de/archiv/en/innovationen/iuk/bildtelegrafie.html

"HISTORY AND DEVELOPMENT OF FACSIMILE":
http://www.thg.org.uk/articles.htm#FACSIMILE
Subject: Re: First transatlantic transmission of a visual material
From: can1972-ga on 01 Jan 2005 15:28 PST
 
Thank you fp for leads to a partial answer. Looking forward to details
about the translantic transmission.
Regards and a good start to the year.
Subject: Re: First transatlantic transmission of a visual material
From: fp-ga on 02 Jan 2005 04:14 PST
 
Some more historical details:

"The first transatlantic radiophoto relay came in 1924 when the Radio
Corporation of America beamed a picture of Charles Evans Hughes from
London to New York":
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blradio.htm

"RCA transmitted the first radio photograph, a precursor to the
facsimile machine, across the Atlantic Ocean in 1924":
http://www.rca.com/content/viewdetail/1,2811,EI98-CI263,00.html?

"Among Ernst Alexanderson's achievements: 
... On June 5, 1924, he transmitted the first facsimile (fax) message
across the Atlantic":
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blalexanderson.htm

"On July 6, 1924, RCA transmitted the first radio photo (of Charles
Evans Hughes) across the Atlantic":
Cache only ("as retrieved on 13 Apr 2004") 
://www.google.com/search?q=cache:Nrup9QTWlrkJ:208.55.66.130/rca/rca/Photo53.htm+%22the+first+radio+photo+%22&hl=en

The first radio photo to be published in The New York Times:
"1926 May 1
The first radio photo. Transmitted from London to 43rd Street"
http://www.nytco.com/company-timeline-1911.html
http://www.nytco.com/images/timeline-1926-5-1.jpg

And all the best for 2005, can1972.
Subject: Re: First transatlantic transmission of a visual material
From: fp-ga on 02 Jan 2005 04:37 PST
 
The June 1924 transatlantic transmission went to Sweden:
"On June 5, 1924, the first wireless telegraph picture was transmitted
across the Atlantic. This was a handwritten page from a letter from
Ernst Alexanderson to his father Professor Alexanderson, in Sweden"
http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/~eugeniik/history/alexanderson.html

"Alexanderson transmitted the first facsimile message across the
Atlantic on June 5, 1924"
http://people.deas.harvard.edu/~jones/cscie129/nu_lectures/lecture8/graphic%20telegraphs/graphic_tel.html

"R. Ranger at RCA achieves the first transmission of a photograph from
the US to Britain. His method involves placing a print on a cylinder
that rotates while being scanned by a light beam"
http://people.deas.harvard.edu/~jones/cscie129/nu_lectures/lecture8/graphic%20telegraphs/graphic_tel.html

More on Richard H. Ranger (1889-1962):
"As a designer for the Radio Corporation of America (RCA), in 1924,
Richard Ranger invented the wireless photoradiogram, or transoceanic
radio facsimile, the forerunner of today?s "Fax" machines. A
photograph of President Calvin Coolidge sent from New York to London
in November 1924 became the first photo picture reproduced by
transoceanic radio facsimile"
http://www.njinvent.njit.edu/1997/inductees_1997/richard_h._ranger.html
Subject: Re: First transatlantic transmission of a visual material
From: can1972-ga on 02 Jan 2005 06:14 PST
 
Thank you fp.
I now know that the first transmissions were in the 20s. 
I know that a photo was transmitted by the founders of Cable and
Wireless over the Atlantic and that was a first, but thought it was
some  time in the 40s.
I consider my question answered but dont see the option to declare it answered.
Thanks for letting me know how, if I am the one to do so.
Regards,
Can
Subject: Re: First transatlantic transmission of a visual material
From: fp-ga on 02 Jan 2005 06:25 PST
 
"How To Close a Question ...":

http://www.christopherwu.net/google_answers/#how_close
Subject: Re: First transatlantic transmission of a visual material
From: fp-ga on 02 Jan 2005 06:51 PST
 
Clarifying my comment on closing a question:
I am not a GA Researcher and cannot officialy answer your question.
Therefore, it is up to you to close a question should you consider a
question answered.

Regards, fp

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