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Walking in the rain and getting wet.
Category: Science Asked by: bornrich-ga List Price: $3.00 |
Posted:
31 Dec 2004 00:24 PST
Expires: 30 Jan 2005 00:24 PST Question ID: 449577 |
If you need to go from point A to point B and it is raining, would you stay drier by running (therefore reducing time exposed to the rain, but also contacting more rain with your frontside due to your velocity) or by walking (therefore reducing contacting rain with your frontside due to less velocity but getting your shoulders and head wetter due to increased time exposure to rain)? |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
Answered By: hedgie-ga on 31 Dec 2004 02:17 PST |
You do stay drier by running.. This was elaborated in more detail here: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=447597 That assumes 'other things being equal' of course : probonopublico-ga's comment exhibits an atitude, which if generally accepted, would make science impossible - as it tends to bring real life issues into simplified idealised models which can be scientifcally anlysed and solved. It is possible that when running, you will trip and fall into a puddle, break your nose and be taken to the hospital in an ambulance, driven by mad driver, who will cause an accident .. but it is unlikely. Since you posted this to category of science, not cartoon making, we neglect those possible scenario, but do caution you: -- be careful when running and recognise these conclusion as probalistic and valid within the assumptions of the model. Hedgie :-) |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: probonopublico-ga on 31 Dec 2004 01:06 PST |
Rain is not constant so any of the scenarios are possible. |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: am777-ga on 31 Dec 2004 02:27 PST |
hiya richie rich, As I recall it you stay drier by walking. Some time ago this was tested and could be vieuwed on Discovery Channel. Perhaps you can contact them to get the results? AM |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: neilzero-ga on 31 Dec 2004 11:51 PST |
I you run 10 miles per hour instead of walking one mile per hour, you would stay dryer over one mile running the distance in 6 minutes. Exceptions would occur occasionally if the walking speed is almost as fast as the running speed. Neil |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: probonopublico-ga on 31 Dec 2004 22:04 PST |
Of course, there are a lot of very wet scientists. |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: timespacette-ga on 31 Dec 2004 23:16 PST |
I find it extremely amusing that: "probonopublico-ga's comment exhibits an attitude, which if generally accepted, would make science impossible" Keep up the good work, Bryan! In forty-five minutes we'll be bringing up the rear on New Year's here in the Pacific North Wet, where we all test these theories on a daily basis . . . :) ts |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: probonopublico-ga on 01 Jan 2005 05:33 PST |
I recall that Government scientists proclaimed that Saddam Hussein had 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'. Well, where are they? Personally, whenever I walk in the rain, I prefer to use an umbrella rather than depend on the untested theories of some so-called scientist. Remember Gene Kelly? Would he have sang and danced so joyously with only some bizarre scientific theory to rely on? |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: silver777-ga on 01 Jan 2005 20:11 PST |
Hedgie, Quote .. "It is possible that when running, you will trip and fall into a puddle, break your nose and be taken to the hospital in an ambulance, driven by mad driver, who will cause an accident .. but it is unlikely". Could this be interpreted as "Probo's preamble being compared to an improbable prerequisite to proboscis puncture, puddles and pedestrian permeability" ? I have to run around in my shower to get wet. So all theories are quite easily debunked. Phil |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: petrostsantoulis-ga on 03 Jan 2005 13:03 PST |
Actually it depends on several factors: a) How fast you walk versus how fast you run b) How much is your vertical versus your horizontal area c) How fast the rain falls Roughly speaking, if we consider rain as a uniform distribution of drops in space then the amount of drops (=water) that comes into contact with you is approximately: a) Proportionate to your horizontal area (=head area) * rain fall speed * time spent in rain b) Proportionate to your vertical area * movement speed * time spent in rain If "time spent in rain" grows (slow walking speed) you get very wet horizontally but only a little wet vertically. If you go very very fast, you get minimum amounts of water horizontally (on your head) and great amounts of water vertically (on your torso). For some "movement speed", say X, the sum of water (on your head/horizontal and on your torso/vertical) is minimum. You can differentiate the rough function above wrt movement speed and find a global minimum. Anyway, this is a rough sketch based on several assumptions. If the "math" above does not make sense, forget it. PKT. |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: some_bloke-ga on 04 Jan 2005 11:02 PST |
As far as I can see you have ignored wind. If the wind is at your back, you should run or walk at the speed of the component of the wind blowing in the direction you are walking. If you do this no rain should hit your front or back. If the rain is vertical or blowing into your face, you should run as fast as you can. The amount of rain hitting your front or back is constant for a given distance, but the less time you're outside the less rain will hit the top of your head and shoulders. |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: bradtv-ga on 15 Feb 2005 19:14 PST |
Yes, time and distance are truely important factors, but one thing I know is that the density of rain is greater horizontally than vertically. I don't run in the rain at times I even go through puddles for lack of care. At the end, I may be more wet than the person who ran, but who looked more foolish? |
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Re: Walking in the rain and getting wet.
From: hedgie-ga on 17 Feb 2005 06:22 PST |
Esteemed commentators It looks like each time a comment is added, these old old answers jump back to the view - so when bradtv-ga on 15 Feb 2005 19:14 PST added his comment, I have looked again and saw all these comments. They illustrate good skeptical attitude to science and computer models in general and show a lot of common sense. (Or is it comment sense?). One thing which I notice, that few people bother to read what was already discovered (and mentioned in the asnwer) namely: " This was elaborated in more detail here: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=447597 " That was a simplified model which correctly quantifies the effect of angle of incidence (rain on person or car) (affected by wind, running, and angle of rain drop path) instead many come with simplified models which are wrong or useless. But reason I came back to comment is this nasty attack From: probonopublico-ga (who we thought dies in a duel in Peru??) who says " I recall that Government scientists proclaimed that Saddam Hussein had 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'" I do not recall any scientist who said that. Not even CIA said that. It was cooked up between politician and Mr Blair was one of them. If you start blaming all scientists or all americans for follies of neocon policies- you really will mess things up. I am disappointed seeing the cheap and undesrved shot. Please respond, Brian. How are preparations for invasion progressing? Will all scientist be arrested by invading army? Hedgie |
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