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Q: GCHQ codebreaking Challenge (www.gchq.gov.uk/codebreaking/) ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   6 Comments )
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Subject: GCHQ codebreaking Challenge (www.gchq.gov.uk/codebreaking/)
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: cymro77-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 06 Jan 2005 12:33 PST
Expires: 05 Feb 2005 12:33 PST
Question ID: 453101
GCHQ Codebreaking Challenge- Got the answers,but what is the quotation?
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Subject: Re: GCHQ codebreaking Challenge (www.gchq.gov.uk/codebreaking/)
Answered By: thx1138-ga on 06 Jan 2005 13:17 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello cymro77 and thank you for your question.

The quotation you are looking for is "Heres looking at you kid"

"The way those alphabets are generated are with the movie name
compressed so that redundant characters and spaces are dropped after
the first one (going left to right).

So "The Terminator" would become "therminao".

Then that is filled out with the rest of the alphabet that is left:
therminaoBCDFGJKLPQSUVWXYZ

Then that is shifted around (add the front character to the end, or
vice versa) until you get the same alphabet as was used to create the
cipher names for the male/female pair.

Once those are all filled out and then put in the order of oldest to
newest by the year of the movie, then you have the full grid:

HBANDCFGJLMOQVWXYZSTRIKEUP
DEFGHIJKMOPQRTUVWXYZCASBLN
SPRACDFGJKMNOQUVWXYZBLITHE
YBCEFGJKPQSTUVWXZROMANHLID
ITNESFORHPCUABDGJKLMQVXYZW
ZSOMELIKTHABCDFGJNPQRUVWXY
FGIJKLOQSUVWXYZTHEAPRMNBCD
UVWXYZGOLDFINERABCHJKMPQST
VGNLBCEJKMPQTUXYZWHOSAFRID
UVXYZTHELIONWRABCDFGJKMPQS
VWYZMURDEONTHIXPSABCFGJKLQ
ZSTARWBCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQUVXY
OPQRSTUVWXYZALIENBCDFGHJKM
GJKLPQSUVWXYZTHERMINAOBCDF
FGHJKLMOPQRUVXYZWITNESABCD
RUVWXYZTHESILNCOFAMBDGJKPQ
NFIDETBGHJKMPQRSUVWXYZLACO
ZMOULINRGEABCDFHJKPQSTVWXY
CFGHJKLOQTUVWXYZSPIDERMANB
MPQUVWXYZLOSTINRABCDEFGHJK

From there, you start at the top left and go down."
http://www.etraininglog.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1805

Thank you for your question, and if you need any clarification of my
answer, do not hesitate to ask before rating my answer.

Very best regards, and enjoy the book!

THX1138

Search strategy included: None, as soon as I saw the problem on the
GCHQ website, the answer was obvious to me.



Ok so I lied.....
Search strategy included: "GCHQ Challenge" quotation
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&as_qdr=all&q=+%22GCHQ+Challenge%22+quotation
cymro77-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $5.00
Marvellous! I would never have got it, in fact I wonder how I managed
to pair up the film actors!
Thanks a lot- have a drink on me and a Happy New Year!

Comments  
Subject: Re: GCHQ codebreaking Challenge (www.gchq.gov.uk/codebreaking/)
From: probonopublico-ga on 06 Jan 2005 13:29 PST
 
Well, all the guys here at Cheltenham are VERY impressed.

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Subject: Re: GCHQ codebreaking Challenge (www.gchq.gov.uk/codebreaking/)
From: thx1138-ga on 06 Jan 2005 15:49 PST
 
Hello again cymro77

Many thanks for the five star rating and the generous tip!

"Thanks a lot- have a drink on me and a Happy New Year!"
I shall have several, thank you!  Pity they don`t have Wadworths 6X in
my neck of the woods!

Bryan
Those `guys` in Cheltenham are easily impressed, but put them up
against Wilthshires finest and they are bamboozled!

Very best regards, and a Happy New Year to you both

THX1138
Subject: Re: GCHQ codebreaking Challenge (www.gchq.gov.uk/codebreaking/)
From: thx1138-ga on 06 Jan 2005 16:04 PST
 
Actually this question reminds me of..........
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=36770
Subject: Re: GCHQ codebreaking Challenge (www.gchq.gov.uk/codebreaking/)
From: myrrhanda-ga on 18 Jan 2005 13:34 PST
 
Gee, thanks guys - not.  The sites your search strategy point to only
give hints to the solution.  Your questionner had done most of the
work and just wanted help with the final part and I'd have had no
problem with your providing that.  But you give such a comprehensive
answer that anyone can solve the entire challenge with minimal effort.
 The prizes are awarded on a "first out of the hat" basis, not to
every correct answer.  Now, those of us who solved this legitimately
(it took me several days of hard work) will be up against people who
made no effort at all!
Subject: Re: GCHQ codebreaking Challenge (www.gchq.gov.uk/codebreaking/)
From: thx1138-ga on 18 Jan 2005 15:54 PST
 
Hello myrrhanda,

I understand what you are saying.  
However, the objective of solving the problem, was to solve the
problem! And cymro77 did just that (albeit unconventionally)
One could argue that to work for GCHQ, MI5, MI6 + others, you have to
work "outside the box" and use whatever resources are available to
you. cymro77 used Google Answers, and got, as you said "a
comprehensive answer" Mission accomplished!

Very best regards

THX1138

(UK citizen based outside of the UK, and available for "Research" if
anyone at GCHQ, MI5, MI6 reads this :)

Also see:
For an "anoraks" over simplistic view (sorry to any anoraks out t/here)

"An example of solving a problem by changing the conditions
surrounding the problem:

One of the StarTrek movies mentions the KobayashiMaru, a training
scenario for hopeful captains. There's no way to succeed; no matter
what you do, you're destined to lose. Starfleet used it as a test of
character, to see how people handle no-win situations. Cadet James T.
Kirk (later known as CaptainHornDog) created a successful solution by
modifying the simulation.

"You cheated!" 

"I changed the conditions of the test. Got a commendation for original thinking."
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?KobayashiMaru
Subject: Re: GCHQ codebreaking Challenge (www.gchq.gov.uk/codebreaking/)
From: probonopublico-ga on 18 Jan 2005 22:33 PST
 
thx1138-ga

You will be contacted.

Go to the sleaziest bar in town and ask Mario the bartender for a pint
of Best Draught Bitter from the Oldham Brewery.

Mario will supply same and your response should be 'Obrigado'.

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