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Subject: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free?
Category: Computers
Asked by: alonzo1776-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 09 Jan 2005 14:44 PST
Expires: 08 Feb 2005 14:44 PST
Question ID: 454662
password mgt software?
some trick with Outlook? or Windows?
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Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free?
From: socr222-ga on 09 Jan 2005 16:00 PST
 
Roboform

http://www.roboform.com/ - it will keep track of 29 Website usernames
and passwords for free.  It will also keep one credit card and address
information for free.  It's a really excellent program.  I've used it
for 2 years.
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free
From: guzzi-ga on 09 Jan 2005 17:18 PST
 
I write them (dozens) on my monitor surround with a felt tip pen. If
you have to have security, write them in a Word document which needs a
password to access -- but you only need one password. Not totally
secure but keeps out casual access.

Best
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free
From: spaztaztix-ga on 09 Jan 2005 17:19 PST
 
There are three things that come to mind:

RoboForm (as mentioned before).  It's basic version is free, but
quickly fills up, and in my personal opinion has too much limitation. 
If you're willing to spend a few dollars though, the professional
version is limitless and works well.

There is also Gator.  Gator is also free, and is limitless, but is
chock full of adware.  I wouldn't use this unless you like popups all
over your screen 24/7.

You could also just switch to Mozilla Firefox.  (www.getfirefox.com)..
It's a browser, and has auto-password save capabilities built in. 
Although, it won't auto-fill forms asking your name, e-mail, address,
etc like the other two.

Finally, the google toolbar has form-filling capabilities.  It won't
save passwords, but will auto-fill forms that ask your name, e-mail,
address, etc.
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free
From: maniac-ga on 09 Jan 2005 19:27 PST
 
Hello Alonzo1776,

The latest CRYPTO-GRAM
  http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0412.html
actually suggests you pick good, strong passwords then write them down
and treat them like cash. Keep them on your person (or in a safe at
home) and if lost, reset them all.

  --Maniac
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free?
From: efn-ga on 09 Jan 2005 20:56 PST
 
I'd suggest using password management software.  There are plenty of free programs.

http://lists.gpick.com/pages/Password_Tools.htm

I have used Password Safe and Oubliette.  Both work and are free.  I
like Password Safe a little better.
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free
From: archae0pteryx-ga on 09 Jan 2005 23:09 PST
 
Maniac,

"If lost, reset them all"?  How are you going to do that if you can't get in?

Archae0pteryx
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free?
From: stone07-ga on 10 Jan 2005 15:18 PST
 
think of at lesat three things that you most often think about and
which are different. Do not take more than 3 letters or words out of
each. Make a combination. Make another, completely different
combination, on the same basis, and a third one. Put one kind of
passwords on you private and impotrant stuff, put another one on
places you are just expecting to have a feedback on. If you forget,
you will always have something to recall in the time of "not
thinking". It's worth for the first two. if you get disclosed on
either of first two, change them to third one you have in reserve, and
think on for a reserve.

Never give your passwords, even if chick/guy seems to be giving in for
the week as a slave. Your goal is not that someone might keep you
passwords safe, but that you can always remember them without the
paper. Never write down, or tell. Keep uniform and stay undisclosed.

If you could think of a questinon of an utmost password protectance
worth $2, than you can figure out combination of N times 35 (numbers +
digits) factorial combinations that means something only to you.
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free
From: maniac-ga on 10 Jan 2005 15:53 PST
 
To answer Archae0pteryx's comment about how to reset passwords (if lost).

There are at least two ways to do that:
 [1] use the "password recovery" method that most sites already provide
 [2] go to the backup copy of the passwords (e.g., safe in your home)
to get in and then make the changes

I can certainly think of several other recovery methods but what I
described is both "free and effective". It also avoids the whole class
of problems with storing password on a computerized system.
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free?
From: neilzero-ga on 12 Jan 2005 05:16 PST
 
I write mine on the fly leaf, front and back of my dictionary. Had I
stored them on my computer in any form, total loss would have occured
with the three computers, I have junked instead of repairing. With a
few exceptions, such as www.answers.google, computers save neither
time nor money, but they do develop skills which may make you more
employable. Generally things that need to be safeguarded, I dont put
on a computer.   Neil
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free?
From: macdk-ga on 15 Jan 2005 17:47 PST
 
Create an email account (yahoo, hotmail, etc). Do not use your company
email, as others may have access to it.
Then simply use the account you created to email your password list to yourself
If you change any of your password, just forward the list with the changes made.
This also serves as a simple archive for past passwords
Not the greatest solution, but it's easy and it's free
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free
From: archae0pteryx-ga on 15 Jan 2005 21:33 PST
 
Isn't it risky to store in a place like HotMail, which someone else
owns and which could be hacked, any kind of private information?

I don't actually trust anything that can be put on a computer
anywhere, no matter whose or with what supposed safeguards.  I always
assume (a) that whatever can be made can be broken and (b) that if my
interests ever come into conflict with those of the entity that
controls the box or the things that run on it, I'm going to lose.

I have used a HotMail account this way, however, somewhat as macdk-ga
suggests:  every time I create a password for anything, create a new
account, sign up for something, or whatever, I do immediately send a
message to myself at a certain HotMail account that I can access from
anywhere.  But I don't actually spell out what the account is for or
where it is, and I don't state entire passwords.  I give one or two
characters or else a phrase that serves as a mnemonic for one of a
standard, recorring set of general-purpose passwords I use everywhere.

I feel burdened by the number of little plastic cards we are supposed
to carry and the number of account accesses we are expected to
memorize, retain, and protect.  I have four little plastic cards to
carry just for work (one of them is an access badge) and seven
password-protected accounts to recall and maintain in order to do my
job, all of which require periodic replacement on different schedules.
 And this does not even begin to take into account banking, shopping,
insurance, social membership, travel, and all the other many
"accounts" that have become a normal part of life, with their plastic
cards and/or usernames and PINs and passwords.  Lost wallets or
handbags, lost gray cells, and loss of full faculties due to age and
infirmity have the potential to handicap us far more than ever was
possible in the past.  Having reached the gray-cell-losing stage, I
find this worrisome.  Does it bother anyone else?

Archae0pteryx
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free?
From: joonaslehtinen-ga on 16 Jan 2005 10:14 PST
 
GnuPG is excellent and high security choice for storing passwords. 

Just list all the passwords in one text-file. When you need to
remember a password, just do gpg < passwords.txt.gpg | grep -i
nameofthepassword

For more information on free GnuPG, see
http://www.gnupg.org/
Subject: Re: Hi, What is a good way to both remember & safeguard passwords? Cheap or free?
From: orbling-ga on 17 Jan 2005 12:06 PST
 
Not very simple, but I have thought of a personal way to 'encrypt' or
'hash' the name of whatever system I'm logging on to and use the
result as my password. I can do the 'encryption' on the fly (in my
head, I mean) and it can results in as strong a password as the system
allows: 8 or more characters, including upper and lower case, numbers
and punctuation. This way I don't have to remember any passwords, only
the way to 'encrypt' the name of the system. Some systems make you
change passwords periodically. For this I just cycle the characters in
the name of the system, which means I start at another letter. This
way I also need to remember the position where to start my
'encrypting'. This is a little harder but it is something I can safely
write down, because it doesn't mean anything to anybody without the
'encryption' method. Which I've never written down.

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