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hydrogen economy
Category: Science > Technology Asked by: marinibug-ga List Price: $30.00 |
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12 Jan 2005 16:42 PST
Expires: 11 Feb 2005 16:42 PST Question ID: 456343 |
will a hydrogen economy deplete the world's water resources? |
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Re: hydrogen economy
Answered By: hedgie-ga on 14 Jan 2005 04:35 PST Rated: |
Absolutely not. It will just add another, small, side loop to the water cycle. water cycle: http://www.kidzone.ws/water/ http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/watercyclehi.html In hydrogen economy fuel (hydrogen) is made from water. When fuel is burned (e.g. in car) the same amount water is re-created. It evaporates and joins other water in the atmosphere. Eventually, the water vapor precipitates and water rains back to the Earth. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/hydrogen-economy.htm It - hydrogen economy - has some benefits over use of gasoline in cars http://auto.howstuffworks.com/hydrogen-economy.htm However, one needs to keep on mind that it does not create energy. To make hydrogen from water takes energy. Hydrogen is a carrier, similar to a battery or a transmission line, not a source. For new sources, to replace current fossil fuels we have very few options : some renewable sources, such as tides, eg http://www.baycrossings.com/Archives/2002/09_October/tidal_energy.htm but mostly SPS and fusion. Both are being pursued: SPS http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/solar_power_sats_011017-1.html Fusion http://fusedweb.pppl.gov/ Both of these method are feasible in the near future - but require additional research, The more we invest - the sooner they will be available. Considering the problems and escalating cost of securing Middle East oil for use in the US and other industrialised nations http://costofwar.com/ it was suggested that it may be better to invest the current resources into the research which would allow exploitation of these new technologies rather then of mineral resources found in the developing world. Either source of energy, fossil, nuclear or solar, has to be combined with the hydrogen technology to produce an sustainable, pollution free future for our children. Hedgie |
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That and the comments fully answer my question |
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Re: hydrogen economy
From: hfshaw-ga on 12 Jan 2005 17:32 PST |
The combustion of hydrogen in air produces water as the reaction product: 2*H2 + O2 -> 2H2O + energy If we ultimately end up producing hydrogen fuels by the electrolysis of water (i.e., splitting H2O into H2 and 1/2O2, see http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/electrol.html), then the burning of hydrogen will simply regenerate the original water. If we obtain hydrogen by steam reforming of natural gas followed by a water-shift reaction (net reaction: CH4 + 2*H2O -> CO2 + 4*H2, see http://www.sasked.gov.sk.ca/docs/chemistry/mission2mars/contents/chapter4/steamreform.htm), then we will actually increase (slightly) the total amount of water present on Earth. (We will be "undoing" what the combined effects of ancient photosynthesis and burial of organic matter did over geologic time by remaking the CO2 and H2O that originally when into making the methane). If, as is likely, the fuel generation, transportation, and fueling system of a future hydrogen economy is not "perfect", and ends up leaking some hydrogen into the atmosphere, that hydrogen could potentially be lost from the Earth via the mechanisms of Jeans (thermal) escape (http://www.cs.trinity.edu/~mlewis/PlAtm/Jeans.html) and solar-wind-induced ablation/stripping of the upper atmosphere. These processes that deplete the Earth's atmosphere in hydrogen have been going on since the atmosphere first formed. If we got the hydrogen from splitting water, this would, very very slightly, enhance the natural depletion of the Earth of water. The rate at which the Earth is being depleted in water because of this is left as an excercise to the reader (hint, see http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/physicsearth.html) |
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Re: hydrogen economy
From: xcarlx-ga on 12 Jan 2005 22:29 PST |
I wouldn't worry about the water supply. Until we are able to produce more electricity in a better way, a hydrogen economy would deplete our fossil fuel supply because we need power to get hydrogen out of water. Of course, if we were to replace all of our petroleum vehicles with hydrogen vehicles tomorrow, the hydrogen supply itself could be considered relatively depleted so the concern over water seems premature. |
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