Hi yaroslav,
I located 10 different boards for you with the required components:
They're all based on Intel's 845G Chipset (with integrated graphics)
and are for P4 processors. There are other chipsets (which I will list
below) which you might want to look into - specifically if you'd like
an Athlon board - but this is the chipset I would advise on using.
- Asus P4B533-V
- Aopen AX4G Pro
- Epox EP-4G4A+
- Acorp 4D845G
- Gigabyte GA-8IGXP
- Intel D845GBV
- DFI NB76-EA
- MSI MS-6580 (845G Max)
- Jetway 845GDAL
- QDI Platinix 8-A
You can look at in-depth reviews of those boards at Tom's Hardware (
http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q3/020722/intel845g-23.html
). The page also includes a link to a "fact sheet" page for all
mentioned boards.
Another option would be boards based on nVidia's nForce (
http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q4/011126/index.html ) or
new nForce2 chipset (
http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q3/020716/index.html )
(which will need a while to mature though). These chipsets are working
with Athlon processors. I will provide a list of boards for you if you
request this in a clarification. However, I think that in case you
want Athlon based boards, you should wait till boards with the nForce2
chipsets have been on the market for a while.
The VIA ProSavageDDR KM266 also offers integrated graphics for Athlon
processor boards ( http://www.viatech.com/en/ProSavage%20Chipsets/km266.jsp
). Again - if you would like boards with chipsets of this type, ask
for a clarification.
Should you require further information, feel free to request a
clarification.
Additional Resources:
Dealtime (find cheap sources for your products)
http://www.dealtime.com
CNET Reviews (cheap sources and reviews for your products)
http://www.cnet.com
nVidia's nForce Homepage
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=nforce
nVidia's nForce2 Homepage
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=nforce2
Intel's 845G Homepage
http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/845g/index.htm?iid=ipp_dlc_chip+deskchip_845g&
search strategy:
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Request for Answer Clarification by
yaroslav-ga
on
27 Jul 2002 11:56 PDT
I was, in fact, looking for an Intel board. It looks like only
Epox EP-4G4A+ and Gigabyte GA-8IGXP in fact have the additional
IDE controller to support a total of 4 ATA channels. Thanks.
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Clarification of Answer by
voyager-ga
on
29 Jul 2002 13:06 PDT
Hi yaroslav,
I'm sorry that I provided 8 boards that didn't fit the description. I
was trusting the fact sheet provided by the testers, not seing that
they mixed up the number of channels and IDE devices.
I don't know why they listed all boards as having 4 channels as the
chipset itself does only support 2 channels and the other 2 channels
have to be added in the form of additional chips. (
http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/845g/index.htm ).
I'm really sorry for any inconvenience I caused with this mix-up. I
should have double checked all the boards provided (I actually took a
closer look at the Epox board, which ironically had the extra two
channels - my last three boards were from that manufacturer and I was
usually happy with them).
If I can help you with any further research, feel free to ask!
Thank you,
voyager-ga
Additional Resources:
P4 Chipset Comparison
http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q2/020624/i850e-05.html
Gigabyte GA-8IGXP (Product Sheet)
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/products/8igxp.htm
Epox EP-4G4A+ (Product Sheet)
http://www.epox.com/html/english/products/motherboard/ep-4g4a+.htm
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Request for Answer Clarification by
yaroslav-ga
on
29 Jul 2002 13:36 PDT
It looks like the Epox EP-4G4A+ has only 32-bit PCI slots.
I can't find any information on whether the Gigabyte GA-8IGXP
has any 64-bit slots.
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Clarification of Answer by
voyager-ga
on
29 Jul 2002 16:52 PDT
Hi yaroslav,
I'm afraid the Gigabyte Board also has only 32bit PCI slots (judging
by the picture of the board - 64 bit PCI slots look significantly
different (i.e. longer)). Do you actually require 64 bit PCI slots
because of performance reasons? If not, you can also usually use the
64 bit cards in normal 32 bit slots.
Which kind of 64 bit PCI slots would you require? Here is a page
describing the different forms (
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/General/PCI_Info.html ).
I took a quick look at what is available if I add the 64bit PCI
restriction to your question and came up with these boards:
The Intel® Server Board SE7500CW2
http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SE7500CW2/index.htm?iid=ipp_srvr_mthrbds+se7500cw2_srvr&
This board has integrated graphics, 64 bit PCI slots, 2 ATA channels
for 4 devices and a dual channel ATA Raid controller. Would that fit
your needs?
Would an integrated SCSI-Controller be an alternative for the 4 ATA
channels? (or for 2 of the 4?)
Intel® Server Board SE7500WV2
http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SE7500WV2/index.htm?iid=ipp_srvr_mthrbds+se7500wv2_srvr&
This is a board specifically designed for racks. It is very similar to
the above mentioned board.
Most of the boards from Intel's server section are pretty close to the
parameters you gave (
http://www.intel.com/products/server/motherbd/index.htm?iid=ipp_home+server_motherbds&
).
Trinity GC-SL
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/trinitygcsl.html
This board has only 3 ATA channels but optionally comes with
integrated SCSI. It also has two 64bit PCI slots (and three 32bit) and
graphics on-board.
It seems that 64bit PCI slots are almost exclusively found in server
systems, which in turn usually have SCSI controllers and just two IDE
channels to round things up. These systems are usually also
multiprocessor systems. I restricted myself to Pentium 4/Xeon systems.
However, a lot of those systems actually are P3. There are also Athlon
and Alpha systems on the market that might fit your criteria.
If you require further assistance or have new data on the questions I
asked above, please post another request for clarification. If you can
provide more information on the actual use of the board (server,
desktop, which special cards might need to be put into the system,
which OS etc.), I might be able to come up with more suggestions.
I hope this information will be helpful!
voyager-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
yaroslav-ga
on
29 Jul 2002 18:26 PDT
I wanted to have a 64-bit PCI slot so that I could use a 64-bit
gigabit ethernet card like the Syskonnect SK-9821. I would like to
build a 1u
rackmountable, but rather set on using IDE, so SCSI is definitely not
an
option. The Syskonnect card can pipe >900MBit/sec of TCP traffic with
a 9k MTU size... but only on a 64-bit bus :(
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Clarification of Answer by
voyager-ga
on
30 Jul 2002 03:50 PDT
Hi yaroslav,
I had a look at the Gigabit card that you want to run in that system.
It has a universal 3,3/5V 64 bit 66MHz architecture, meaning you can
use it in e.g. the Tyan board that I suggested above (
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/trinitygcsl.html ).
The only problem being that you might have to wait a little to get
that board.
If you can go for 2U, the second Intel board might also be a
possibility for you (the first one only has 100/133MHz 64bit).
Do you know if this extension card is really that much better than the
on-board gigabit chips that some of the boards (like e.g. the Tyan
one) come with? The 64bit PCI slots are the most limiting factor at
the moment.
voyager-ga
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Clarification of Answer by
voyager-ga
on
30 Jul 2002 04:17 PDT
Hi yaroslav,
You might also be interested in reading this page on Intel®'s 82545EM
Gigabit Ethernet Controller (
http://www.intel.com/design/network/products/lan/controllers/82545.htm
). It is - as far as technical data suggests - as powerful as the
extension card you're planning on using. It is the Gigabit controller
used on the Tyan board I suggested above. Intel has another model of
this controller with 2 Gigabit connectors for use specifically in
server boards. Those chips are pretty new though, so availability
might also be a problem.
voyager-ga
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