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Correct spelling of family name
Category: Family and Home Asked by: lordhighcommander-ga List Price: $35.00 |
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15 Jan 2005 01:47 PST
Expires: 22 Jan 2005 13:32 PST Question ID: 457569 |
I'm looking into my family history and I'm trying to find the correct spelling of my ancestors name. The spelling I have now is "Sicovsky" but I don't think this is correct. I have also seen "Sekovsky", and in both cases the y could be replaced with an i. The name comes from Riga in Latvia at about the turn of the 19th century. As far as I'm aware it's pronounced shh - kov - ski |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: probonopublico-ga on 15 Jan 2005 03:23 PST |
This is a tough one if you don't know the spelling. By 'turn of the 19th century' do you mean 1799-1801-ish or 1899-1901-ish? And presumably your ancestor went to America? |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: fp-ga on 15 Jan 2005 03:50 PST |
Do you consider your family to be of Latvian or Russian origin? If of Polish origin it would probably be Sikowski. |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: lordhighcommander-ga on 15 Jan 2005 03:58 PST |
They left Latvia and went to the UK in the 1899-1901 ish turn of the century, but actually could have been between 1860 - 1910. I have done some internet research myself but came up with nothing. I thought I would ask you guys before I searched out some Latvians.. |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: lordhighcommander-ga on 15 Jan 2005 04:03 PST |
I know for sure the family came from Riga, but wether they are Russian by way of Latvia I don't know. Based on what I know I would consider them to be from Latvia. |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: probonopublico-ga on 15 Jan 2005 05:43 PST |
If they were in the UK in 1901 then they maybe on the 1901 census which is accessible here: http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: augusta-ga on 15 Jan 2005 07:21 PST |
It is helpful in these cases to do a G**gle search and then see how many results come up for each as a way to measure which form is more common: Sicovsky: 1 result ://www.google.com/search?lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Sicovsky Sekovsky: 18 results ://www.google.com/search?lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Sekovsky Sekovski: 217 results ://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=Sekovski&spell=1 So I vote for "Sekovski". Does Lithuanian use the Roman Alphabet or Cyrillic cahracters? |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: augusta-ga on 15 Jan 2005 07:28 PST |
Uh.. Latvian. Does _Latvian_ use the Roman Alphabet or Cyrillic cahracters? |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: probonopublico-ga on 15 Jan 2005 08:22 PST |
Sample text in Latvian; Visi cilv?ki piedzimst br?vi un vienl?dz?gi sav? pa?cie?? un ties?b?s. Vi?i ir apvelt?ti ar sapr?tu un sirdsapzi?u, un vi?iem j?izturas citam pret citu br?l?bas gar?. http://www.omniglot.com/writing/latvian.htm |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: probonopublico-ga on 15 Jan 2005 08:27 PST |
Also note this was introduced in the mid-1930's: Latvian (Latvie?u) Latvian is a Baltic language related to Lithuanian and Old Prussian with about 1.4 million speakers in Latvia. There are also Latvian speakers in the USA, Russia, Australia, Canada, Germany, the UK, Sweden, Lithuania, Ukraine, Estonia, Brazil and Belarus. The first publication to be printed in Latvian was a catechism which appeared in 1585. The first Latvian dictionary, Lettus, was compiled by Georg Mancelius in 1638. The German monks who wrote these texts used a version of the the Fractur alphabet adapted from German which was ill suited to the Latvian language. This alphabet was used until the mid 1930s, when it was replaced with a modified version of the Latin alphabet devised by Dr. J. Endzelins and K. Mühlenbach. Same link. |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: fp-ga on 16 Jan 2005 02:33 PST |
According to "eleventh edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica, first published in 1911" http://60.1911encyclopedia.org/ Riga "now ranks seventh in the empire in order of population; 47% of the inhabitants are Germans, 25% Russians and 23% Letts, with a small admixture of Esthonians, Jews, &c" http://30.1911encyclopedia.org/R/RI/RIGA.htm Did your ancestors actually live in Riga? Or was Riga just their port of departure? British "Census Records & Images" are available at http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ (subscription required) Do you know the first names of your ancestors coming from Riga? Knowing their first names would help. You could try to find your ancestors in the "All Latvia Database" ("a work in progress and new entries are being added regularly") http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Latvia/ including "Riga Tax Administration List" http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Latvia/RigaTax.htm "The All Russia 1897 Census - Riga, Rezekne and Krustpils" http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Latvia/AllRussia.htm "Riga Passport and Travel Documents Registration List 1900" http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Latvia/Passport.htm |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: probonopublico-ga on 16 Jan 2005 12:46 PST |
A friend of mine who knows Latvia & some Latvians reports ... All the Latvians I know have names ended in "s" -Jansons. Valdemars, Nikolajs etc. His ancestors must have been immigrants! |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: fp-ga on 16 Jan 2005 13:42 PST |
I suppose that family names ending with -sky or -ski are Slavonic, i.e. not Latvian. More on "Naming of Latvians": http://www.roots-saknes.lv/Names/Naming.htm |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: harijs-ga on 16 Jan 2005 15:29 PST |
I tried to look the name up in the Latvian Phone Database, and I found no "Sicovsky" or "Sekovsky" in it. The closest match that I have been able to find was "Seikovsky" or "Seicovsky". This database includes more than a third of Latvia's inhabitants - those who have phones. There were other family names there, which differed from yours by one letter, like "Siskovsky" or "Siscovsky". The name is almost definitely of Polish origin, however, it does not necessarily mean that your ancestors are Polish. I am Latvian myself, however, my family name is German (from my great-great-grandfather, who is the only German ancestor I have had, the rest are mostly Latvian and I even have one Polish ancestor). There are many Latvians in Latvia with Polish family names. If there is anything else I can do to help with your search, let me know. |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: fp-ga on 18 Jan 2005 02:07 PST |
According to the 1901 census http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ Marks and his wife Rine Sokoffsky were born in Russia, as was there eldest son David. In 1901 they were living in London together with their younger children Solomon and Rose both born in England. |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: fp-ga on 18 Jan 2005 02:29 PST |
Another possibility would be Sachofski: According to the 1901 census http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ Jacob and his wife Fanny Sachofski were born in Russia, as were three of their children. In 1901 they were living in London. Four children were born in England. |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: probonopublico-ga on 18 Jan 2005 23:05 PST |
It might be easier - and more rewarding - to find the Tsar's jewels. Over to you Freddy. |
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Re: Correct spelling of family name
From: harijs-ga on 19 Jan 2005 09:30 PST |
There are no Sokkofskys currently in Latvia who have a phone, however, there are three Sachofskis, two of them in Riga - Stepan Sachofski and Anna Sachofski. |
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