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Q: google is not indexing images on my site - can i speak to google? ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
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Subject: google is not indexing images on my site - can i speak to google?
Category: Computers > Programming
Asked by: simsysims-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 27 Jul 2002 03:58 PDT
Expires: 26 Aug 2002 03:58 PDT
Question ID: 45760
why doesn't google index my images? I have 22000 of them and google is
only indexing one! because my site is multi frame based, i have
provided a list page for crawlers to use
http://www.musicpictures.com/artists_no_frames.cfm which leads to many
pages with between 1 and 9 images on each page. i have also tried
various other methods for about a year. But google is still not
indexing the images. My question is really - is there any way to speak
to someone at google about this? I've tried all the FAQ's and sites
like search engine watch etc.
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Subject: Re: google is not indexing images on my site - can i speak to google?
Answered By: missy-ga on 27 Jul 2002 15:43 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hi there!

As Ian notes below, your page is incorrectly coded. 

I've rearranged your code for you (in spite of CoffeeCup Pro
complaining vehemently about it), you may download the file here:

http://blake.prohosting.com/~woozle/extras/musicpictures.html

...and this should solve your problem.

Here's why:

"How does an indexing robot decide what to index?
If an indexing robot knows about a document, it may decide to parse
it, and insert it into its database. How this is done depends on the
robot: Some robots index the HTML Titles, or the first few paragraphs,
or parse the entire HTML and index all words, with weightings
depending on HTML constructs, etc. Some parse the META tag, or other
special hidden tags."

The Web Robots FAQ
http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/faq.html#visit

The Googlebot wandered to your page, tried to read the information at
the top of the page (the .js links), and couldn't understand what your
page said.  It didn't recognize your page as a valid HTML document, so
it left.  By rearranging your code so the .js links are in their
proper positions within the <HEAD> tags, you tell the Googlebot that
it is indeed a valid HTML document, which allows it to crawl the rest
of the document and do its job.

It would probably help you to know that your page is too big for the
Googlebot to index all of your images.  The Googlebot only indexes the
first 110K of a document - your crawlers page weighs in at a hefty
.85MB!  Break that down into several smaller, linked pages of 100K or
less to ensure that all of your images are indexed.

Search Engines Details - Google
http://alt.venus.co.uk/weed/search/engines.htm#goo


For more information about how web-bots work, and how to optimize your
site for maximum crawl coverage, try these guides:

Checklist for Search Robot Crawling and Indexing
http://www.searchtools.com/robots/robot-checklist.html

Robots & Spiders & Crawlers:
How Web and intranet search engines follow links to build indexes
http://support.inktomi.com/products/search/support/docs/wp-spider/default.htm

Spiders and Indexing Robots
http://websearch.about.com/cs/searchspiders/



Good luck!

--Missy
simsysims-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Thank you very much for this answer missy - and ian too. Both
excellent sources. When you're a one man band working on a site it
helps big time to get an outsiders view. This lead me to start
checking and fixing several aspects of my site with regard to document
validity. An aspect that is not obviously important to web crawlers
untill you think about it! Thankyou! Simon.

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Subject: Re: google is not indexing images on my site - can i speak to google?
From: ian_stobie-ga on 27 Jul 2002 12:54 PDT
 
This is just a guess, but the HTML of your page looks very confusing.
The normal position for the <script>...</script> stuff you've got
right at the beginning of
http://www.musicpictures.com/artists_no_frames.cfm is after the <head>
tag, not before it.
So my guess is that Google's crawlers simply give up, not recognising
this as a valid web page. There's definitely something wrong with your
page. If you go to W3C's free HTML validation service at
http://validator.w3.org and enter your URL it immediately throws up a
fatal error.

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