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Subject: Spanish Question
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Asked by: patrice29-ga
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Posted: 16 Jan 2005 06:38 PST
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Question ID: 458040
I'd like to request crabcakes to answer this question.

Crabcakes, would you explain the "I am" vs. "I have" issue.

ex. If I say "I'm hungry" would be Tengo hambre. It occurs to me that
perhaps there simply isn't an adjective in Spanish for hungry, thus
you say that you 'have' the noun form.

I understand that in many cases there is an adjective form, and you
say Estoy xxx. However in many cases you say I have. Another example -
"I'm cold" Tengo frio.

My question is, how do I know when to use "I am" and when to use "I have"?
Here are some other adjectives:
free
happy
tired
bored

Also, how does this work for verbs.
ex. I'm going, I'm reading, I'm learning.


Thanks, Patrice

Request for Question Clarification by crabcakes-ga on 16 Jan 2005 14:47 PST
Hi Patrice,
  I just now saw this question, but I can't get to it just now. I'll
respond to your question tonight!

  Thank you for directing this question to me!  :-)

Hasta Pronto,
crabcakes
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Subject: Re: Spanish Question
Answered By: crabcakes-ga on 16 Jan 2005 22:23 PST
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Saludos, Patrice!

 Another baffling ?Spanish-ism?! 

 Your example verb forms are Spanish verbal idioms. There is no real
explanation. I found a wonderful explanation of a verbal idiom on an
About site:
?As used in this site, "idiom" most often refers to a phrase or
expression that cannot be understood by knowing what the individual
words in the phrase mean. For example, "to roll out the roll carpet"
is to extravagantly welcome a guest; no red carpet is needed. The
phrase is misunderstood when interpreted in a literal fashion. An
example of a Spanish idiom is "no está el horno para bollos, which
literally means "the oven isn't ready for bread rolls." The phrase
generally means "the time isn't right." Although most idiomatic
phrases are of primarily colloquial usage, there are many that are
acceptable in standard speech and writing.?

?Tener is one of those verbs that has many idiomatic uses, such as
tener hambre (to be hungry) and tener prisa (to be in a hurry). So
many uses does tener have, in fact, that the question ¿Qué tienes? can
be used to ask, "What's up with you??

http://spanish.about.com/cs/vocabulary/g/idiomgl.htm


  I don?t mean to sound flippant, but you will have to get used to
which verb to use, ?estar? or ?tener?, and at the rate you seem to be
learning, it won?t take you long to get the feel of these verbs.

Estoy is used with words that indicate how you feel, or where you are.
Always use ?estoy? (estar)as an auxiliary verb  when using verbs that
end in ?ando, -endo , -iendo, which is comparable to ?ing in English.
Think of the ?estoy? form as somewhat temporary. Most people are not
ALWAYS happy, sad, tired, in Venezuela.

Tengo calor / I?m hot

Estoy cansada /I?m tired

Estoy feliz / I?m happy

Estoy en Venezuela! / I?m in Venezuela!

Ella es delgada / She is slender.

Ellos son triste / They are sad

Estoy triste / I?m sad

Estoy muy aburrida / I?m very bored

Me fastidia / It bores me  (In some countries. Don?t make the mistake
of saying ?Estoy fastidiada? because that means YOU are boring, (or
annoying in some countries)



Estoy leyendo / I?m reading

Estoy trabajando / I?m working

Estoy aprendiendo / I?m learning

Estoy caminando / I?m walking

Estoy comiendo / I?m eating

Ella esta llorando / She?s crying

Ellos estan hablando / They are speaking

Nosotros estamos jugando futbol / We are playing soccer







Soy libre cuando canto / I?m free of when I sing
In this case, use ?soy? because it indicates a characteristic or
quality of the subject.

Quiero ser libre / I want to be free



Estoy libre de la influencia / I?m free of influence
In this case, use ?estoy? because it indicates the condition or state
of the subject. Estar expresses the location, situation or position of
the subject.

Por fin, ella es libre de SPAM / Finally, she is free of SPAM


Tengo also applies to certain feelings, and age! Think of it as a form
of ?To be? as in ?Tengo miedo?/ I am afraid

Tengo frio / I?m cold (I have cold/I have feelings of cold)

Tengo 15 años / I am 15 years old/ I *have* 15 years/I have completed 15 years

Tengo hambre / I?m hungry (I feel hunger)

Tengo sueño / I?m sleepy (I feel sleepy)

Tengo prisa / I?m in a hurry (I feel/have hurriedness !!!)

Tengo tanto rabia! / I?m SO mad! (I feel/have anger)

Ella tiene rencor / She feels bitter ( She has bitter feelings)

Tenga cuidado / Be careful / Take/Have care 




Ir = To go   A VERY confusing verb. We have ?ir? and ?irse?. ?IR?
means to go, and is a transitive verb. ?IRSE? means to go away, leave,
and is a reflexive verb. You use ?me? ?se? ?te? with the verb. It is
used when the subject and the object are the same.

=====
Irse:
=====
Me voy porque tengo clase a la una / I?m going (away) because I have
class at one o?clock. (I?m taking myself away)

Rosa se va cuando llega su esposo / Rosa is leaving when her husband arrives.

Se van a las once / They are leaving at 11:00

?Te vas? / You?re leaving?

Me voy / I?m leaving 

Me fui  / I left

Ellos se fueron / They left

===
IR:
===

Ella va a Paris cada año / She goes to Paris every year

Nosotros vamos a la tienda cada semana / We go to the store each week.

Magaly y su hija van a la piscine cada dia / Magaly and her daughter
go to the pool every day.

Voy a caminar / I?m going to walk

Vamos a comer / We?re going to eat

Voy al parque / I?m going to the park

Van a hacer su tarea ? They are going to do their homework 

Cuando voy a clase, siempre llevo mi mochila / When I go to class, I
always carry my backpack.

In Spanish, ?go? and ?come? are somewhat reversed at times. If I say 
?Rosa, venga? I mean ?Rosa, come (here)?,yet she responds using the
?ir? form, by saying ?Voy? or ?Ya voy?. Literally ?I go?, and not
?Vengo? meaning ?I come?.



This page explains it well, and has links to quizzes!

http://www.studyspanish.com/lessons/reflexive1.htm

http://www.studyspanish.com/lessons/estarirdar.htm

Hope this has helped you, Patrice. Feel free to ask for an Answer
Clarification, if not! Remember, some vocabulary is used in some
countries, that is not used in others. I can no longer remember any
other word for backpack, as I am in a predominately Mexican Spanish
area, and ?mochila? is in use here!

Sinceramente,
crabcakes

Request for Answer Clarification by patrice29-ga on 17 Jan 2005 05:52 PST
So would it be true that you Always use Tener for adjectives?


Thanks Again,
Patrice

Request for Answer Clarification by patrice29-ga on 17 Jan 2005 06:05 PST
I should have more exact. Let me re-phrase.

Would it be true that you Always use Tener, and Never use Estar for adjectives?

Patrice

Request for Answer Clarification by patrice29-ga on 17 Jan 2005 06:18 PST
On reading your answer again, I realize my previous request for
clarification don't make sense. Please disregard.


Let me just ask this:
Would 'Estoy yendo al parque' also be correct for 'I'm going to the park'

Could 'Voy al Parque los sabidos' be interpreted 'I go to the park on Saturdays'?

Patrice

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 17 Jan 2005 16:50 PST
Hi Patrice,
  Yes, you can say "Estoy yendo al parque", it is correct. However,
what is used more often, in everyday speaking is "Me voy al parque".
While 'yendo' is correct, it is more formal. Yendo is also used in
this way: Suppose your boss is sending you to Rome, Italy, for
business, all expenses paid. When s/he tells you, your are thrilled
and reply "?Estoy yendo a Roma? Adding of course, "!Que maravilla!"
How marvellous / wonderful!

 'Yendo' is a progressive verb form, used to mean a continuing action also. 
'Estoy yendo al gimnasio' / I'm going to the gym...understood as "I've
been going to the gym regularly"

  The progressive form is not used nearly as often in Spanish as it is
in English, although it is used in latin America a lot more than in
Spain. (United States Influence?)

  Does this help? Ask again, if you need further clarification!  :-)

  Hasta la vista, crabcakes
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