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Subject: Nuremberg Trials film
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: samadeus-ga
List Price: $100.00
Posted: 20 Jan 2005 20:52 PST
Expires: 19 Feb 2005 20:52 PST
Question ID: 460822
Looking for a film that documents Julius Streicher shouting on his
execution in Nuremberg trials "Purim fest 1946" [looking for an
available website or phone No with exact and valid info for
how to get or rent this film]

Quote from Wikipedia

"Only Julius Streicher went without dignity. He had to be pushed
across the floor, wild-eyed and screaming: "Heil Hitler!" Mounting the
steps he cried out: "And now I go to God." He stared at the witnesses
facing the gallows and shouted: "Purimfest 1946!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 25 Jan 2005 07:59 PST
samadues-ga,

I agree with my colleagues that there are not likely to be films of
the executions, and even if they existed, would probably not add much
information, as the bodies apparently dropped behind curtains out of
view.

There are eye witness accounts and newspaper reports, such as the
description in a newspaper article from an unnamed witness:


...British correspondents had alleged that the executions were
bungled, so that some bodies were mutilated and some men strangled
slowly.  Prison authorities denied it.

...Wilhelm Frick appeared to have hit his face on the edge of the trap
as it dropped him on the noose...

...the faces of eight men were drenched with their blood, which had
welled from eyes, ears and mouths.  On some, especially Keitel and
Frick...the marks of the noose stood out angrily.

...It appeared...that Julius Streicher might have strangled without a broken neck.

...Correspondents at the executions could not see the bodies as they
swung below the trap behind curtains.


==========

Would excerpts from similar articles meet your needs in lieu of an
actual film?  If so, I can post additional information as an answer to
your question.

Let me know.

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by samadeus-ga on 25 Jan 2005 15:29 PST
pafalafa, [sorry in advance for my bad english]

The hanging process was indeed hidden, but the shouting "purim fest
1946" [the specific scene i am looking for] occured befor Streichers
entering in his hood & curtain, as a International News Service
correspondent describes here.
"[Streicher was swung suddenly to face the witnesses and glared at
them. Suddenly he screamed, 'Purim Fest 1946.']"
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/NurembergNews10_16_46.html

My major interst is in integrating the reels in a public lecture so u
am looking for the impact of authenticity and motion picture, mor the
general acknowledge.

Clarification of Question by samadeus-ga on 25 Jan 2005 15:33 PST
pafalafa, [sorry in advance for my bad english]

The hanging process was indeed hidden, but the shouting "purim fest
1946" [the specific scene i am looking for] occured befor Streichers
entering in his hood & curtain, as a International News Service
correspondent describes here.
"[Streicher was swung suddenly to face the witnesses and glared at
them. Suddenly he screamed, 'Purim Fest 1946.']"
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/NurembergNews10_16_46.html

My major interst is in integrating the reels in a public lecture so i
am looking for the impact of authenticity and motion picture, mor then
general acknowledge.
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Subject: Re: Nuremberg Trials film
From: politicalguru-ga on 20 Jan 2005 22:38 PST
 
Having seen a couple of documentaries and searched the Internet for
any reel abotu the executions, I'd say that I doubt it if the
executions themselves have been filmed. However, maybe another
Researcher would be more successful here.
Subject: Re: Nuremberg Trials film
From: samadeus-ga on 20 Jan 2005 23:28 PST
 
Hello politicalguru,

I will appreciate if you can list the doc's you've seen, to save me some time.

I was going to buy this 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html/ref=wlem-si-ht_gotowl/102-3982739-6828138?%5Fencoding=UTF8&id=18L9EK4I0Y1MG

specially because a review i saw in amazon on the film "Nuremberg-Tyranny on Tria" 

Quote: (Note: One fact I did not know before I watched this was that
during the executions, instead of their necks snapping instantly,
several of the convicted instead slowly strangled to death. Field
Marshal Wilhelm Keitel alone took 28 mintues to die.)

Thanks,
Jack.
Subject: Re: Nuremberg Trials film
From: fp-ga on 21 Jan 2005 02:17 PST
 
According to
http://www.stephen-stratford.co.uk/imt.htm
"All the corpses, including Goering, were photographed".

Presumably, this webpage would mention any filming of the executions.


Perhaps the following book will answer your question:
Conot, Robert. Justice At Nuremberg. NY: Carroll & Graf, 1984
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0881840327/theamericanisraeA/

as referred to by
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Streicher.html
Subject: Re: Nuremberg Trials film
From: politicalguru-ga on 21 Jan 2005 05:46 PST
 
Svilov's film is the film made by the Soviets, based on the allies'
footage during the trial and before that (on each of the counts, the
footage shows reels and films documenting this atrocity). Rene's film
is very good, and documenting the horrors, not only the trials.

Haven't seen the two American productions but quite frankly, I doubt
it if they show execution reels.

If this is really of importance, it might be that the US Holocaust
Museum or National Archives hold a copy - it's worth a try.
Subject: Re: Nuremberg Trials film
From: samadeus-ga on 25 Jan 2005 07:00 PST
 
It is really of importance,

Thanks for you comments.
Subject: Re: Nuremberg Trials film
From: politicalguru-ga on 02 Feb 2005 04:09 PST
 
Got a negative answer from the US Holocaust Museum - they are not
aware of such a reel.

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