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Subject: name of camp
Category: Relationships and Society > Cultures
Asked by: badrobot-ga
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Posted: 22 Jan 2005 18:03 PST
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Question ID: 461738
I read that Scott Weiland of Velvet Revolver recovered from addiction
by attending a martial arts camp in Washington State.
This was covered in a VH1 special as well. Can you provide me the name
of the camp and contact information? If private, please have them
contact me. I am ready to stop drinking but cannot attend a
traditional "rehab" because my job precludes me from doing so. I am in
a "designated postition", and going to rehab means no job.

Clarification of Question by badrobot-ga on 23 Jan 2005 13:29 PST
I'm just looking for the name of the camp, not a twelve step program.
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Subject: Re: name of camp
From: hardhat-ga on 22 Jan 2005 18:58 PST
 
Listen to me friend and listen good. I am an alcoholic (35 years
drunk) I?ve been in AA for 8 years and will be in AA for the rest of
my life or as long as I want to stay sober. There is no camp you can
go to and be cured. It don?t work that way. Alcoholism is an illness
of the soul that will never go away. If you?re sick and tired of being
sick and tired go find your local AA, find someone when you walk in
the door and tell them it?s your first meeting. They WILL help you??..
to help yourself. Good luck.
Subject: Re: name of camp
From: david1977-ga on 22 Jan 2005 19:15 PST
 
This is the only information I could find related to where he recieved
his rehabilitation.

Now that Weiland's completed the terms of his sober-living program for
the possession offense, he's scheduled to continue after-care
counseling and testing while serving three years of probation for
pleading no contest to driving under the influence. Under the terms of
that probation, he's required to enroll in another six-month
drug-treatment program, which, like Genesis, will allow him to come
and go, and he also must attend three Narcotics Anonymous meetings per
week for the next three years.

http://www.mtvasia.com/News/200408/04011068.html

Genesis House
621 34th Avenue
Seattle, WA 98122
206-328-0881

Other clinics in that area.
http://www.4drugrehab.com/state-WA.html
Subject: Re: name of camp
From: juggler-ga on 22 Jan 2005 20:47 PST
 
I'm not sure that the place Weiland visited is a "camp" per se.

From Entertainment Weekly:

"McKagan and Kushner whisked him away for an intense retreat at a
friend of McKagan's, a kung fu master who lives in the mountains of
eastern Washington. "It was three guys in the middle of nowhere," says
Kushner, "doing yoga and martial arts and running and living with each
other in this tiny house for two weeks."
http://www.belowempty.com/vr/articles/2004/041119_EW.php


Perhaps another researcher will be able to locate the kung fu master's name.


Also, I must note that the Genesis House (Seattle) mentioned above by
commenter David1977-ga is almost certainly NOT the program Weiland
used.  The MTV article clearly suggests that the Genesis program was
something that Weiland completed in the Los Angeles area. That program
is described as "nearby" relative to a court in Pasadena, California.
Subject: Re: name of camp
From: archae0pteryx-ga on 23 Jan 2005 16:18 PST
 
There are numerous D&A (drugs and alcohol) "camps" with various
themes, such as outdoor living, horseback riding, etc., but what they
are is recovery camps.  They put clients through detox and start them
in the program, which is more than likely to be an established 12-step
program.

You can do the same thing on your own without spending $15k-36k per
month if you have the strength to sober up cold turkey and go to
meetings and work the program, or even just the courage to lift that
10-ton phone, make a phone call to AA while you're still a wet drunk,
and get yourself to a meeting or just put yourself into the hands of
whoever volunteers to come and pick you up.  If you haven't got it,
the camps can give you enforced detox, a routine, a grounding in the
steps, the beginnings of a support network, and an initial period of
sobriety, and after that you still have to do the abstinence and the
meetings.  Some make it and some relapse.  It ain't easy.

If sobriety is worth it to you, you can let go of the job.  If it
isn't, the job's at risk anyway.  Hardhat is right.  You can't found a
sober life on a major self-delusion.

Archae0pteryx
(haven't been there myself, but seen it close up)

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