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Subject:
Heating problems
Category: Family and Home Asked by: vaac-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
23 Jan 2005 22:26 PST
Expires: 22 Feb 2005 22:26 PST Question ID: 462303 |
We have difficulties getting enough heat.Ten years ago, when the furnace was installed everything was ok. Now when we set the thermostst to 66 degrees F the house heats up only to 62 on cold days, and if I open more radiators, the temperature in the rooms which were heated originally drops. The gas and electric co., with whom we have a contract, did help somewhat several years ago but was unable to help last year. I suspect that the heating pipes are getting clogged with calcium sulfate eposits(CaSO4). From my chemistry I know that Na2CO3 (washing soda) will convert calcium sulfate to calcium carbonate, at least in the laboratory, and the sulfate ion will get bound to the sodium. If adding sodium carbonate to the heating system will do the same - then I could let out the soluble sodium sulfate with the water in the heating system, add tap water, do this several times untill all the sulfate is gone; Subsequently the insoluble calcium carbonate now clogging the system could be dissolved in tap water to which vinegar is added. Has anybody done such a procedure? Was it successful? Or was the problem worsened by the calcium carbonate formed clogging the system worse or by the vinegar making holes in the radiators or the steel pipes? Does anybody have other suggestions except tearing the walls and replacing the pipes? |
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Re: Heating problems
From: neilzero-ga on 24 Jan 2005 08:15 PST |
This reminds me of a joke. The question was: will hydrochoric acid remove the scale from my boiler. The engineer replied, yes, but (a bunch of technobabble) The question was asked again and again and again. Finally the engineer replied Do not use hydrocholic acid. It will eat hell out of your pipes. My guess is vineger is slower, but just as destructive. Commercial scale removing chemicals also are likely to cause leaks. Your best bet may be some supplimental heating, and limp along as long as you can with the partially clogged system. Scale is the reason few new instalation use steam or hot water heating. Usual scale is calcium carbonate, but it is possible your water has lots of calcium sulphate. Calcium sulphate is slightly soluable in water, so using distilled or deionized water in your heating system may remove part of the scale. If you try to remove all the scale, the distlled water will corrode your system. If you really want to try it; I suggest carbon dioxide gas or baking soda = sodium bicarbonate as calcium bicarbonate is slightly soluable in water, but you will need to flush the system several times. Don't use any kind of acid or alkali. Neil |
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Re: Heating problems
From: capitaineformidable-ga on 25 Jan 2005 12:37 PST |
You could try Calgon in the water. This is available nearly everywhere to prevent scale build up in washing machines and dishwashers etc. Alternatively you could try the disodium salt of EDTA (ethylene diamine tetra acetic acid). This is a type of chemical known as a chelate (claw) and acts by attracting but not chemically combining with metal ions in solution. Simply put it draws them into a lobster pot type molecule from which they find it difficult to escape. More calcium will dissolve to maintain the solubility which will be mopped up by the EDTA. This is not a dangerous chemical but is somewhat specialised and will probably only be available from a chemical supplier. If you notice an improvement in the temperature performance, then flush the system to be on the safe side before leaks occur. Hope this is helpful. cf |
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Re: Heating problems
From: paul1959-ga on 26 Jan 2005 08:30 PST |
Sounds like the valve is full of mineral deposits. Replace it. If the entire radiator is clogged, hydrocloric acid (muratic acid) will dissolve it but it will need to be immersed in a vat of acid solution and dunked in and out, followed with a water bath, this is expensive and dangerous. The fumes alone are dangerous. You're better off replacing the radiator if it's clogged. If the pipes are clogged you'll have to replace the entire system. If you do this don't use tap water in the system or it will all happen again. |
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Re: Heating problems
From: mnstrbuck1-ga on 14 Feb 2005 10:19 PST |
How about thinking like a heating tech. What did the gas co say was wrong? You suspect your pipes are clogged? Has a professional confirmed this? Is it a steam system ? Or hot water system? We know it is not a furnace, they use forced air, not radiators. Has the system been bled? Are the vents operational? If it is steam, is the trap clear? |
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Re: Heating problems
From: thunkit-ga on 09 Mar 2005 06:51 PST |
The only thing I can think of is spot heating. This is an interesting solution, these are heaters in winter and air conditioners in summer. http://www.portableairconditioners.us Don't know if this is really what you had in mind, but it beats freezing or boiling. |
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