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| Subject:
International Travel Buddy Pass
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: bkaufmann-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
26 Jan 2005 22:20 PST
Expires: 25 Feb 2005 22:20 PST Question ID: 464089 |
I was recently told that all international airlines have a "Buddy Pass" system where certain employees have a limited number amount of free international flights they can give away to their friends and family members. The only charge to the recipient is the cost of taxes on the ticket that must be paid. I do not have a friend or family member that works at an international airport and has this option, which brings me to my question. How can I find someone who is willing to put me on their buddy pass list for international flights? Clearly, I am thinking this would have to be someone who is single or maybe someone with not a large family because otherwise they would already have plenty of people ahead of me in line waiting for these ticket opportunities. I am not looking to find an airline that flies international and I am not looking for a place online to check for cheap travel tickets or travel packages, I know of them all. I am looking to find someone to put me on their list so I can take advantage of their perk at their place of employment. I look forward to everyone's responses. Thank you for your time and interest. |
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| Subject:
Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: pinkfreud-ga on 26 Jan 2005 22:26 PST |
My mother is an airline retiree. She has access to a very small number of passes. I cannot imagine that anyone would dole these out to someone who was not extremely close to the family, and facing an emergency situation. |
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Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: silver777-ga on 27 Jan 2005 03:08 PST |
Hi BKaufmann and Pink, I work for an airline. Each airline has different "in-house" privileges. Interline agreements with other carriers are generally standard with 25% or 50% industry discount fares. $30 airfares are a thing of the past. The $30 covered the insurances and taxes to which you refer. Free flights are based on years of service and purpose of travel as is the priority of upload/offload/upgrade. Having served over 21 years I am in the fortunate position of being able to travel the world for nothing. The accrual system does allow for nominated beneficiaries. Twenty years ago I had to prove my defacto relationship with my future wife by way of providing joint bank account proof. Now the rules have been relaxed for anyone to nominate even a neighbour. That came about due to the sad (oops, gay) community and it's prevalence in being attracted to the industry for whatever reason. They can change nominated partners each 12 months by the way. A "friend" like you had the audacity to ask to be placed onto my staff travel. I told him where to go, in no uncertain terms. My lady friend still enjoys the usage of my travel benefits. Although she now has a job with the same airline, she has the benefit of my years of service to ensure a higher priority of uplift. I would rather gift my privileges to a beggar on the street than to afford same to one who has the use of a computer. Without my lady friend, I would gift that to the person whom benefitted most. The cost to the employee, in my case is Fringe Benefits Tax. Airfare values over $500 paid become reportable. Then after $1000 become taxable. Every dollar valued above $500 when taxable, equates to dollar for dollar in paid tax. Trust me, I have memorised the formula and paid for it for another's benefit. I respect that you don't have the inside knowledge, but I still can not believe that you have even asked the question. Phil |
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Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: poet-ga on 27 Jan 2005 05:09 PST |
Oh Phillip Do get over yourself you self-righteous homophobic nonentity. The OP just asked where he might find folk who possibly would take a different view - as a commercial transaction I imagine, but you were just toooo busy wallowing in your self-adulation to read it that way. To the OP - maybe put a wanted ad on ebay? Poet |
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Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: bkaufmann-ga on 27 Jan 2005 06:45 PST |
pink: Thank you for your post. silver777: Thank you for your post. poet: :) I greatly thank you for your comments and suggestion. I am certain if you had access to my request, you would be more than willing to work out a practical agreement. I appreciate your time. ------ I look forward to more comments and suggestions. |
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Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: silver777-ga on 27 Jan 2005 19:43 PST |
BKaufmann .. Thank you for your acknowledgement. If by chance you find a deal, don't make it public. The employee may lose their job if it's found that they sold their privileges. Then neither of you will end up with rebated travel. Poet .. Yeah. Fair call I guess. Sorry to have upset you. Phil |
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Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: bkaufmann-ga on 28 Jan 2005 06:46 PST |
silver: Although you have made yourself quite clear, I never have directly asked you the question. Would you be willing to make an agreement with me? I am quite interested and not only can offer a small amount of monetary value, but I can also offer other services that you may be looking for. I do not see this as an illogical one way avenue with me getting an inexpensive traveling pass, I see this more as an economic benefit for the both of us. Both of us have needs throughout our year, so we are merely trading our niches to better satisfy our personal daily lives. Please reply. |
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Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: silver777-ga on 28 Jan 2005 22:41 PST |
BK, Replying as asked. I like your lateral approach. Although we may disagree in principal, I admire your tenacity toward finding an answer. I choose not to help you directly regardless of any reciprocated service on offer. Or as you suggest "join the queue". We all have friends, and most have families. Hey, what else can I say? I'm not here to profit from a privilege. Do not take it personally. You can't anyway, as we don't know one another. I just need to be very clear on that point. Should you happen upon someone who is willing to do a contra deal, please bear one thing in mind. The rebated travel, passes or whatever are a privilege, not a right of employment. As such they are for the purpose of leisure travel, not business. Discounts are also offered for the carriage of cargo. This will appeal to you, but again it's for personal effects, not business. One big contravention of the privileges can stuff it up for the honest majority. Please think on that, beyond short term personal gain. I believe I now understand your asking. Perhaps there is another way to reduce your travelling costs. Consider the number of people who choose not to fly, yet accrue frequent flyer points just by using a credit card. From memory, (without checking) I think that the points can be "gifted" depending on the joint deal offered between the financial institution and the airline. How about making inquiries on that angle? Then, as you sort through the chaff you might advertise: "Cash in your Frequent Flyer points". Doing so may limit you to certain destinations, but will cut your costs. Percieved value is also another angle I am sure you will have the nous to pursue. Imagine trading goods at "your" price for the retail "percieved" price in exchange for flying points. You will be the one in control, because the non-flyers won't use the points anyway. If they won't accept your price, just walk away. But leave your business card. They will call you. In fact, you may do better than airline discounts with the nett result. You must beat their own family to the finish line by the way, so keep your offer attractive to them. It's all about balance isn't it? The only other way I can think of, is to score a job with an airline. Many will have only part-time jobs available. You would have to work for a minimum period before qualifying for those cheap airfares. How might a part-time job affect your current work? Again, it's for leisure travel, not business. I like the way you think. I hope that I have helped and not dismissed your question. Phil |
| Subject:
Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: bkaufmann-ga on 29 Jan 2005 08:30 PST |
silver: I want to again thank you for taking your time and posting another comment. Let me start off by saying I disagree with part of your last post. You state that rebate travel is a privilege, not a right of employment. With what you have said in all of your posts, I am quite surprised that you even accept this privilege. Furthermore, I have a credit card with frequent flyer miles, but I could wait years before that will pay its dividends. I believe this is the most practical way of finding someone who is willing to share their perk. Even if that person is not looking for a reciprocated service in return, it would be allowed as ownership of the privilege to at least stay open minded and consider my request. As far as working for the airline, the closest one to me is about 60 miles, which would not be convenient for me to drive to even on a part-time basis. I sincerely appreciate your continued posts. I know we can come to some type of arrangement that is good for the both of us. I am certain there is some type of service you would be interested in as a return for granting me discounted travel; remember this service can also be personal satisfaction and helping someone in need. I look forward to your reply. |
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Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: silver777-ga on 29 Jan 2005 09:25 PST |
BK, I think we are on different wave lenghths. Any "perk" in a job is a privilege. The usual purpose that businesses do so is for both morale and to avoid their own staff buying goods and services with the opposition. I pay for travel at a staff rate. To refuse to take part in that would be stupid. Read my previous post again re frequent flyer points, which may (or perhaps may not) be transferable or "gifted". Explore the possibility of buying someones points. It's simply a suggestion for you. Finally, no we can not come to any arrangement. Phil |
| Subject:
Re: International Travel Buddy Pass
From: truchita-ga on 23 Aug 2005 22:07 PDT |
No airline employee in their right mind would every take you up on their offer. Why would they? I would never give my priveleges to someone I dont know...and why would I want to go to the beach in Costa Rica with you when I can be there with my wife, friend, girl friend, boy friend, aunt, uncle, grandpa, grandma, mom, dad, brother,sister....ect. The airlines are very strict about using buddy passes or flight priveleges for personal gain. I know a number that have been caught selling buddy passes/trading or using priveleges for gain (YES TRADING IS CONSIDEREDT THE SAME) and fired on the spot. SORRY....Your only option is to get new friends, a job with the airlines, or save your miles. happy travels. |
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