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Subject:
desire
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music Asked by: badabing-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
31 Jan 2005 16:34 PST
Expires: 02 Mar 2005 16:34 PST Question ID: 466599 |
just some idle $2 curiosity here so no researching allowed. I'm guessing this might be a markj-ga question, but this info could be deposited in someone else's memory bank, too. don't rightly know. so it's about Ryan Adam's song "Desire" and here's a link to the clip: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006IRHZ/qid=1107215002/sr=8-5/ref=pd_bbs_5/104-2134330-4161555?v=glance&s=music&n=507846 my question is if his phrasing and stressing of those next to the last syllables has a name. it almost makes granny wanna do a slo-mo unisonian Butabi Bros. to-the-side head bob. do it with me now... with no SEE crets no ob SEH shun 'is time I'm SPEE ding with no deh REK shun without a REE zun thanks! G?, bobble head |
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Re: desire
Answered By: markj-ga on 01 Feb 2005 04:25 PST Rated: |
Granny -- After THINKing 'bout your ANswer In the MIDdle Of the NIGHT I came UP with One more TItle With a RHYthm Like deSIRE It's "Precious Lord," the great gospel song by the Rev. Thomas A. Dorsey. Actually, it's not quite the same because most of the phrases lack the unstressed fourth syllable, but it'll do: Barnes & Noble: B.B. King Sings Spirituals/Freedom Songs http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?sourceid=00401402266266383336&ean=4995879030332&bfdate=02-01-2005+07:14:34 Now, to make the answer official, I am reposting here my comment of yesterday: Thanks to Pink's glossary, we now know that the meter of each phrase of the lyrics of the song, standing alone, can be described as a "paeon", or one accented syllable in a four-syllabe phrase. Even more precisely, it can be called "tertius paeon," since the accent is on the third syllable: Open Poetry: Paeon http://openpoetry.com/paeon What is interesting about it musically is that it involves an accent on the first beat, and only the first beat, of a song written with the time signature of 4/4 (four beats to a measure; quarter note gets one beat). It is much more common in 4/4 time to have a primary accent on the first beat and a secondary accent on the third beat. This is the so-called "fox-trot rhythm of such songs as "On the Street Where You Live" and, from back in your heyday, "Embraceable You." While all traditional waltzes have their only accented beat on the first beat, it is unusual to have the only accented beat in 4/4 time on the first beat. The most familiar of such a rhythm may be the stereotypical tom-tom rhythm for American Indian dances that goes DUM-dum-dum-dum, DUM-dum-dum-dum. One prominent example of such a rhythm in the country/bluegrass repertoire is the opening measures of the chorus and the verse of the classic "Will the Circle be Unbroken." Search Strategy: No searching, so no strategy. As usual, you came up with a fascinating question. Keep 'em coming. markj-ga |
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wow, nothin' like wakin' up to a BB spiritual in the a.m. I had a feeling if anyone would know this, it'd be you, mj. thanks for your head knowledge of musicology. long may it wave and granny wishes she could tip you what it's worth. fascinatin' answer as always! love, your tom-tom granny |
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Re: desire
From: pinkfreud-ga on 31 Jan 2005 16:48 PST |
Gran, This may help you to analyze the patter of tiny metric feet: http://www.noggs.dsl.pipex.com/vf/feet.htm |
Subject:
Re: desire
From: markj-ga on 31 Jan 2005 18:29 PST |
Grandmother -- Thanks to Pink's glossary, we now know that the meter of each phrase of the lyrics of the song, standing alone, can be described as a "paeon", or one accented syllable in a four-syllabe phrase. Even more precisely, it can be called "tertius paeon," since the accent is on the third syllable: Open Poetry: Paeon http://openpoetry.com/paeon What is interesting about it musically is that it involves an accent on the first beat, and only the first beat, of a song written with the time signature of 4/4 (four beats to a measure; quarter note gets one beat). It is much more common in 4/4 time to have a primary accent on the first beat and a secondary accent on the third beat. This is the so-called "fox-trot rhythm of such songs as "On the Street Where You Live" and, from back in your heyday, "Embraceable You." While all traditional waltzes have their only accented beat on the first beat, it is unusual to have the only accented beat in 4/4 time on the first beat. The most familiar of such a rhythm may be the stereotypical tom-tom rhythm for American Indian dances that goes DUM-dum-dum-dum, DUM-dum-dum-dum. One prominent example of such a rhythm in the country/bluegrass repertoire is the opening measures of the chorus and the verse of the classic "Will the Circle be Unbroken." I would be interested in seeing whether other researchers and commenters can come up with other examples. Anyway, that's my two-cents worth. markj-ga |
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Re: desire
From: badabing-ga on 31 Jan 2005 20:42 PST |
honey child, I think you and me are the only folks with a 4/4 jones so post away in the answer box whenever you're ready. couldn't place the rhythm for that tune until you reminded me of WTCBU. doh! and thank you kindly to the lovely Pink for the pentameteric nudge! tertius paeon. sounds like the name of a "Gladiator" extra, don't it? |
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Re: desire
From: markj-ga on 01 Feb 2005 08:09 PST |
granny -- Thanks. You're the nicest granny ever. markj-ga |
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