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Subject:
Flashing my BIOS made my computer SLOW!
Category: Computers > Hardware Asked by: debest-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
29 Jul 2002 22:39 PDT
Expires: 28 Aug 2002 22:39 PDT Question ID: 46765 |
I updated the BIOS on my motherboard, and my computer is now very slow (eg: bootup took 10 minutes, I can type into this box faster than the screen can update). The details of my computer are below: - Motherboard: DTK PAM-0052V E-0 - BIOS: Award 4.51 - Processor: AMD K6-2 350MHz - OS: Windows 98SE - RAM: 320MB SDRAM (The reason I wanted to update the BIOS was I bought a new IBM 80GB hard drive, and the computer locked up on POST. The IBM web site stated that older Award BIOSs show this symptom when trying to use drives larger than 33.6GB.) I went to DTK's web site (www.dtk.com.tw) and went through its support pages (written in very poor English). It suggested I download the utility appropriate to my motherboard (AWDFH713.exe) and the update file (52V112.bin). First possible issue: the site did not have support for the "PAM-0052V E-0", only the "PAM-0052V". Other motherboards on the list did have extended letterings. I copied the downloaded files to a boot disk. I rebooted to the floppy and ran the utility. It first asked me if I wanted to save the current BIOS. I said yes. Then it asked me to name the file. (Later I discovered the site suggested naming this file "(oldBIOSnumber).OLD".) I called it "bios.bin". It saved this file to the floppy. Then it asked me to confirm I wanted to update the BIOS: I said yes. It looked to update successfully. I exited the utility and rebooted. The computer POST process went normally, then it started loading Windows. The splash screen took about twice as long as normal. When I reached the desktop, the background painted down the screen very noticably (about a second). After the login box, it went into its automatic hardware detection, and found "Motherboard Resources", as well as COM1, COM2, and LPT1 (don't ask me why). Then the desktop SLOOOOOWLY painted onto the screen. I decided to reboot, got impatient at the time to shut down, and did a hard power down. As usual, I got Scandisk after such a reboot. The process on my three partitions took over 20 minutes. Then Windows booted equally slowly as before. Thinking I may have corrupted Windows, I started trying reinstalling Windows from my boot disk and Windows CD. Same slowness just to get to the Welcome screen, so it looks like it's a hardware issue. I abandoned the attempt (I don't want to think how long that would have taken). I tried using the DTK utility to flash my BIOS with my "BIOS.bin" file I created above. The utility complains that the file is not an Award BIOS. I don't know if it is just picky about the file name, or if the file is corrupted. In any rate, I did not take down the old BIOS number (it would have been displayed on the screen during the POST process). The computer seems to work, it's just 10-20x slower than it was before. This note has been excrutiatingly hard to write due to the fact that the type doesn't appear until I stop for a second. I went through the Device Manager in Control Panel. Every device on the list (specifically those under "System Devices" are listed as "working properly". The thing I can see is that there are two "Motherboard Resources" on the list now (although I'm not positive that they was not already two on the list before). So, what do I do now? I'd like to get the computer running with an updated BIOS (so I can see if the new HD works), but I'll accept going back to my old setup as well. All of my data is backed up already, so any and all suggestions can be attempted if they could work. | |
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Subject:
Re: Flashing my BIOS made my computer SLOW!
From: welk-ga on 29 Jul 2002 23:12 PDT |
There are i think two possibilities - 1: that the bios defaults have been reset (as they would have been during the update), and in doing so the prossesor speed and other settings have been set to a slow settings ie your processor could be running at 50mhz or similar. 2: you flashed the wrong bios (uhoh) - you need to find the right one and flash that. |
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Re: Flashing my BIOS made my computer SLOW!
From: welk-ga on 29 Jul 2002 23:16 PDT |
try this: http://www.dtk-at.com/data/pambios/52v110a.zip from this page: http://www.dtk-at.com/support.htm say its for PAM-0052V E-0 RG/RH |
Subject:
Re: Flashing my BIOS made my computer SLOW!
From: debest-ga on 31 Jul 2002 10:38 PDT |
Blader: I could not find an "Optimized Defaults" selection in the BIOS setup program. There was a "Reset to Default" selection: I did that and there was no change. Welk: I tried the file from the web site you referenced. Now the machine is totally dead: it won't even POST ;-( I'm not really expecting a miracle here (and no hard feelings here), but any possible way of recovering this sucker now? Or is it time to find a new MOBO? Thanks. |
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Re: Flashing my BIOS made my computer SLOW!
From: sbd1965-ga on 02 Aug 2002 11:35 PDT |
Hi, The motherboard should have a CMOS clear jumper onboard. You can try placing that jumper in the 'clear' position and powering up. Shut off the machine and place the jumper back in the 'normal' position and power on again. If this works, great, but at this point I doubt it will. For your board, you want to look for Jumper 6 (J6); it should be near the battery. Normal position is 1-2, clear position is 2-3. Some boards have a BIOS recovery jumper setting to handle situations like this. Basically, this setting will allow you to boot to a recovery mode whereby a part of the BIOS that does not get flashed takes over and operates to load a BIOS file from the floppy drive. I could not find any such feature for your board, but you may want to take a look at the jumpers on the board anyway. If all else fails and you don't want to replace the board, I suggest you visit: http://www.badflash.com They specifically handle situations like this. Assuming your BIOS chip is in a socket and can be pulled from the mainboard, they can reprogram the chip and/or send you an entirely new BIOS chip. Their prices are reasonable (typically under $20 including shipping), they're quick and reputable. The nice thing about this method is they can program the chip(s) with any version you desire. Good luck, Scott |
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Re: Flashing my BIOS made my computer SLOW!
From: sbd1965-ga on 02 Aug 2002 12:04 PDT |
Here's a little more information about how to go about doing a boot-block recovery. Basically, if the BIOS are bad (i.e. won't post) there should still be a portion of the BIOS that seeks the floppy drive looking for certain files. If found, it will reflash the BIOS appropriately. The following is taken from the badflash FAQ page. I would suggest you look there for other reasons for failure and potential solutions: Q. I flashed with the wrong file. Is there any way to recover? A. If your floppy drive seeks on power up and then stops after a short period of time, you may have a chance to recover. The following information was obtained from Wim's Bios http://www.wimsbios.com/ FAQ's. Corrections on AWARD Bios by Terry McGuire. Award: The boot-block BIOS will execute an AUTOEXEC.BAT file on a bootable diskette. Copy an Award flasher & the correct BIOS *.bin file on the floppy and execute it automatically by putting AWDFLASH *.bin /sn /py /cc /r in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file. The * would be the correct bios .bin file and there must be spaces between the slash marks. Put it in the floppy and turn on the computer when the floppy seeks it will load the correct bios and reboot by itself. When it finishes you have to remove the floppy and enter the cmos SETUP and modify the CMOS for your configuration. AMI: The AMI boot-block BIOS will look for a AMIBOOT.ROM file on a diskette. Copy and rename the correct BIOS file on the floppy and power up the PC. The floppy doesn't need to be bootable. You will see the PC read the floppy, after about 4 minutes you will hear 4 beeps, this means the transfer is done. Kill Power to the PC. Clear the CMOS or RTC. Reboot the PC and modify the CMOS for your configuration. Again, good luck, Scott |
Subject:
Re: Flashing my BIOS made my computer SLOW!
From: samrolken-ga on 03 Aug 2002 08:27 PDT |
Something you may want to consider doing is looking through your bios settings for things like shadowing of rom, cache settings, and ram timings. Something like that corrupt can make wacky things happen. |
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