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fluid dynamics - fluid inertia
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: qwerty76-ga List Price: $50.00 |
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07 Feb 2005 18:07 PST
Expires: 09 Mar 2005 18:07 PST Question ID: 470721 |
What is the difference / relationship between inertia and inertance in a fluid dynamics context (eg, fluid inertia and not acoustic inertance)? Can one properly say that fluid inertia is equal to the length of a segment of a tube carrying a liquid divided by the cross sectional area of the tube (possibly expressed as "I=L/A"? |
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Re: fluid dynamics - fluid inertia
Answered By: wonko-ga on 08 Feb 2005 10:57 PST Rated: |
Inertance is a measure of the inertia of a fluid. The following reference derives the formula for fluid inertance (called "inductance" in the reference) as being (rho)l/(pi)R^2 where rho is the fluid's density, l is the length of the tube, and (pi)R^2 is the tube's cross-sectional area. Your formula was very close, but it omits the fluid's density. In addition, L is commonly used as the symbol for a fluid's inertance rather than for the length of the tube. "Duality" by Steven A. Jones, Louisiana Tech University http://www2.latech.edu/~sajones/Senior%20Design%20Web%20Pages/Homework%2010%20on%20Duality.htm The substitution of (rho)l(pi)R^2 for the fluid's mass m is explained in the following reference: "The Simple Harmonic Oscillator" Physics 36 / Music 36 Duke University (Spring 2005) http://www.phy.duke.edu/~dtl/36h4_sho.html Other potentially useful references are: "Hydraulic Ram" by Neville Hogan, Integrated Modeling of Physical System Dynamics (1994) http://ocw.mit.edu/NR/rdonlyres/Mechanical-Engineering/2-141Fall-2002/5242E7CD-1E31-44AE-A13D-DAB1EF25EC7A/0/hydraulic_ram.pdf "Tutorial 1-Creating Models of Engineering Systems" by D. J. Dunn, Instrumentation and Control http://www.freestudy.co.uk/control/t1.pdf Sincerely, Wonko Search Terms: fluid inertia inertance |
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Thanks. Wonko found information that I hadn't even after a fairly thorough search . |
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Re: fluid dynamics - fluid inertia
From: racecar-ga on 08 Feb 2005 11:55 PST |
"Can one properly say that fluid inertia is equal to the length of a segment of a tube carrying a liquid divided by the cross sectional area of the tube (possibly expressed as "I=L/A"?" I would answer "no" to this question. Inertia describes the resistance of a body to changing its state of motion. The inertia of an object is proportional to its mass--you have to apply a larger force to change the velocity of a concrete truck than to change that of a matchbox car. So, I would say that the inertia of the fluid in a tube is proportional to its mass, or rho*L*A (that's density times length times cross-sectional area). "What is the difference / relationship between inertia and inertance in a fluid dynamics context?" Inertance, as you have defined it, is analogous to inertia, but instead of describing how much FORCE is required to bring about a given change in VELOCITY in a given time, it describes how much PRESSURE is required to bring about a given change in RATE OF FLOW in a given time. Your formula, "I=L/A", is appropriate for the case where you measure rate of flow by the MASS of fluid that passes through the tube per unit time. Wonko's formula, "I=rho*L/A", is the one to use if you measure rate of flow by the VOLUME of fluid that passes through the tube per unit time. So if you want to use your 'inertance' to determine, say, how much pressure will be required to change the flow rate through your tube from 1 kg/sec to 3 kg/sec in 5 seconds, you should use I=L/A. If you want to use it to determine the pressure required to change the flow rate from .001 m^3/sec to .003 m^3/sec, you need to know the density of the fluid, and you should use I=rho*L/A. |
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