i am looking to complete my family tree, but the language barrier
causes striffe, i am looking for websites that are in english to trace
my family in germany, the hamburg area. i have already seen the major
sites like my family and church of the latter day saints, and they
have nothing. any sites to help will be excellent. the name of a
relative is Christoph Fahlbusch Meyerson before 1891 as he was in
london then on the census (the name was changed from Fahlbusch to
Meyerson to descuise their german origin). He was allegedly from the
aristocracy? |
Clarification of Question by
thegeorgeoustribble-ga
on
11 Feb 2005 09:32 PST
yes it was charles meyerson on the 1891 census, his name was
originally fahlbusch in germany so 1891 is the furthest back we have
at the moment.
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Request for Question Clarification by
scriptor-ga
on
11 Feb 2005 10:40 PST
Dear thegeorgeoustribble,
This is a puzzling problem, indeed. I have found this posting and what
I believe to be your reply on the Ancestry.com boards, so I know that
the story must have a solid background:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.myerson/5.3
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.myerson/5.3.1
I have searched the 1901 census of England and Wales, and I found Charles Meyerson:
Name: Charles Meyerson
Age: 36
Where born: Germany, German Subject
Administrative County: Cheshire
Civil Parish: Bromborough
Occupation: Barman
Source: http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
So we now know that Charles Fahlbusch Meyerson was born in 1865 (+/-
one year). But it still does not tell us anything about his ancestry
or the place in Germany he came from. However, the 1901 census
provides some interesting additional information. There were more
Meyersons living in Bromborough, and I assume that they are Charles'
family:
Name: Franzieka Meyerson [this must be a mistake. The correct spelling
of that German name is Franziska]
Age: 36
Where born: Saxony, German Subject
Administrative County: Cheshire
Civil Parish: Bromborough
Name: Albert Meyerson
Age: 5
Where born: Lancashire Liverpool
Administrative County: Cheshire
Civil Parish: Bromborough
Name: Arthur Meyerson
Age: 8
Where born: Lancashire Liverpool
Administrative County: Cheshire
Civil Parish: Bromborough
Name: Ethel Meyerson
Age: 3
Where born: Cheshire Bromborough
Administrative County: Cheshire
Civil Parish: Bromborough
Name: Lillie Meyerson
Age: 11
Where born: London Westminster
Administrative County: Cheshire
Civil Parish: Bromborough
Name: Nellie Meyerson
Age: 13
Where born: London Lambeth
Administrative County: Cheshire
Civil Parish: Bromborough
So now we do not only have the names of Charles' wife and children -
by the birth places, we can also trace where they lived since 1888.
That Franziska Meyerson was born in the German kingdom of Saxony in
about 1865 may be a clue for Charles' origin as well. It is possible
that he also came from Saxony. But it is also possible that he was
born in a different part of Germany, for example in or near Hamburg.
But the one thing that puzzles me most is: Why did Charles change his
last name? There was no need to disguise his German nationality in the
1890s - after all, England was ruled by a German family, and there was
no war between the relatively young German Empire and Great Britain.
And: Did he really change it at all? I have discovered the birth
records for Albert, Nelly (or Nellie), and Ethel - and even though
Albert and Ethel were born after 1891, at a time when Charles
supposedly had already changed the family's name to Meyerson, they are
listed as Fahlbusch:
Births March 1896
Surname: Fahlbusch
Given Name: Albert
District: Liverpool [Lancashire]
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/districts.pl?r=67153065&d=bmd_1106230359
Births March 1898
Surname: Fahlbusch
First Name: Ethel Violet
District: Wirral [Cheshire]
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/districts.pl?r=71037462&d=bmd_1106230359
Source: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
These are currently the results of my research. Are they of any use
for you? Please let me know.
Regards,
Scriptor
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Clarification of Question by
thegeorgeoustribble-ga
on
11 Feb 2005 11:30 PST
aurthur meyerson is my grandfather now deceased, francis (or the
spellings you have provided is my great grandmother who my mum
remembers clearly. the 1st went to london and then charles worked on
the liverpool docks as an interpreter as he spoke 7 languages. we
virtually know he was from a wealthy background as he knew all the
languages and was reputedly himself or his father a doctor in germany.
they changed their name to sound less german/jewish or both. charles
was interned on the isle of mann for ww1 and went back to germany
afterwards, leaving us here (his wife and children) he died alone in
germany as the red cross informed franzika of his death and she wore
black for the remainder of her life. all the other children you found
are correct there were 5, 2 born in london and 3 born in
merseyside/wirral
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Request for Question Clarification by
scriptor-ga
on
11 Feb 2005 17:35 PST
Well, if Charles and Franziska were married in Berlin, there is a
certain chance that the Civil Register Office (Standesamt) still has a
marriage record. All existing Berlin vital records after 1874 are kept
by that authority. Because of the losses due to bombings in World War
II, most German vital records archives are more or less incomplete,
but inquiring is nevertheless worth trying.
When inquiring for the marriage record, please keep in mind that
"Charles" may not be the original name of C. Fahlbusch (though it is
not completely impossible). The German equivalent would be "Karl" or
"Carl".
Here is contact information for the vital records archive
(Urkundenstelle) of the Berlin Civil Register Office; don't hesitate
to contact them in English:
Standesamt Mitte
Urkundenstelle
Parochialstr. 3
10179 Berlin
Germany
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Phone (main): +49(0)30-2009-0
Phone (archive): +49(0)30-20092-4312
Fax: +49(0)30-20092-4353
E-Mail: standesamt@ba-mitte.verwalt-berlin.de
Website: http://www.berlin-mitte.de/index.php?id=60
Please let me know if this leads to useful results!
Scriptor
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