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Spaceships in outer space travels...
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: carioca35_-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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16 Feb 2005 07:20 PST
Expires: 18 Mar 2005 07:20 PST Question ID: 475435 |
Jet planes only can fly fast as they do just because the resistence of the air that surrounds them. How possibly can we possibly expect a spaceship - in an outer space mission - goes as faster as a jet plane if there is no air resistence acting over there? How could it keep on accelerating? Is there any practical solution for that, based on the technology we achieved nowadays? | |
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Re: Spaceships in outer space travels...
Answered By: maniac-ga on 20 Feb 2005 19:02 PST |
Hello Carioca35_, Let me restate the main question slightly and then answer it. The other questions will be answered below as well. How does a space ship [w/o air] travel faster than an airplane [in air]? The motion of both the space ship and airplane is basically dependent on a rule called "Newton's Third Law of Motion", described in brief at http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/newt.html [scroll near to the bottom] which basically states that For every action, these is an equal and opposite reaction. In the case of the space ship, when it "burns fuel", the "action" is the motion of the burnt fuel to the rear of the ship, and the "reaction" is that the space ship moves forward. Once the ship is out of the atmosphere, there is basically no practical limit to the speed - provided you have enough fuel. Fuel becomes a limit much sooner than other limits such as the speed of light. Several other commenters have indicated that the fuel is burnt by a combination of fuel and oxygen. This type of fuel is NOT required to make a space ship or rocket work. For a simple example of this, consider a "water rocket" that can be picked up at a toy store and explained quite well at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/mechtoys/waterrocket.html In this case, no fuel is "burnt". The rocket moves up (and may work quite well in outer space) because the water (the fuel) is pushed through the nozzle by the compressed air. There are several other methods to create space ship engines. Some of the more notable ones include: nuclear blasts, described briefly at http://www.scibooks.org/orion.html ion drive, efficient to use if you don't mind taking a while to accelerate at http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/deepspace_propulsion_000816.html bussard ramjet, a theoretical interstellar engine at http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A600436 and several others. With this as context, now to answer the other two questions. Q: How could it [the space ship] keep on accelerating? A: The space ship can't. Eventually you will run out of fuel. The ion drive described in the link above ran for over 200 days of operation, but eventually it ran out of its fuel. At that point the space craft will coast and move based on the gravity of the sun, planets, moons, etc. Q: Is there any practical solution for that, based on the technology we achieved nowadays? A: The Bussard ramjet describes the engine for an interstellar space ship. In this case the fuel is small particles of hydrogen spread throughout the universe. Science fiction authors have written stories about use of that type of engine. The book "Tau Zero" described in the link above has a ship that "breaks" on route to another star. The crew decides to "keep going" and see if they can land somewhere else but that does not work very well either and they keep going faster and faster. [I won't spoil the ending] We cannot build such a ship today but we have ideas on how to do so. Maybe not so practical after all. I hope this answer explains how space ships (or rockets) work and how they go faster - much faster - than airplanes. For more information, try searches like Newton's law of motion air water rocket toy nuclear bomb rocket orion ion drive rocket bussard ramjet rocket to get more information. If the explanation is unclear to you or you need an expanded explanation of a part of the answer, please make a clarification request. --Maniac ? |
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Re: Spaceships in outer space travels...
From: puffin88-ga on 16 Feb 2005 08:22 PST |
The air resistance *limits* how fast a plane can go. It doesn't enable the plane to accelerate. It sounds to me like you are thinking that a spaceship could never accelerate because there is nothing in space for it to push against. This is a common mistake. In fact, the New York Times ran an editorial in the early days of rocketry ridiculing the idea of space travel for just this reason. (They printed an apology on the day that man landed on the moon.) Rockets accelerate because of conservation of momentum, not because the exhaust of their engines pushes against anything. |
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Re: Spaceships in outer space travels...
From: gregorious-ga on 18 Feb 2005 15:38 PST |
there is actually different space propulsion technology called ion-drive technology that allows for a consistent acceleration the specifics of how it works i cannot recall however. |
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Re: Spaceships in outer space travels...
From: namcaps-ga on 05 Mar 2005 14:19 PST |
Another consideration... If you could overcome the limited fuel problem you?re still limited by the speed of light (as mentioned by maniac above). This is due to Einstein?s theory of Relativity, which states that as an object increases speed, its mass also increases. Mass (effective) = Mass (rest) / (1 ? v^2/c^2)^1/2 where v = speed, and c = speed of light. At low speeds this increase in mass is negligible, however as you approach the speed of light it becomes quite significant. Since E = mc^2, this means that the increase in mass ?uses up? energy. This energy comes from your engines. So instead of putting all your energy into accelerating, some of it is now going towards increasing your mass. When you get close to the speed of light, almost all of your energy is getting turned into mass, and you?re hardly accelerating! This is why you can?t go the speed of light. I?m sure this wasn?t the exact answer you were looking for, but I hope that you?ll find it to be an enlightening side note. -namcaps |
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Re: Spaceships in outer space travels...
From: glhayman-ga on 03 Feb 2006 18:41 PST |
There does exist a means of propellantless propulsion for a starship. Based on the work of Miguel Alcubierre and Albert Einstein it utilizes a huge, resonant, neutral, electromegnetic field to react off of space/time itself. If you want to go lightspeed, your starship has to behave like a photon of light. It is the only feasable way that man will ever travel freely in outer space. See the webpage on this design at: www.ovalecotech.ca |
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