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Subject: Sexual predators
Category: Relationships and Society > Relationships
Asked by: shantichristo-ga
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Posted: 16 Feb 2005 12:21 PST
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Question ID: 475593
What is the researched recovery rate for Convicted sexual predators.
Treatment recommendations.

Request for Question Clarification by cynthia-ga on 17 Feb 2005 05:59 PST
The United States?
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Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: lrulrick-ga on 16 Feb 2005 12:56 PST
 
You may find these sites helpful
http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/reports/2003-06-recidivism.html
http://www.inpsyte.ca/alexander.html (has tables to show data)
http://www.springtimeonline.net/CastrationPaper.html
http://www.johnhoward.ab.ca/PUB/PDF/C24.pdf#search='sexual%20offenders%20treatment%20rates'

This site shows treatment programs:

http://www.johnhoward.ab.ca/PUB/respaper/treatm02.htm


Does treatment work? :http://www.beachildshero.com/doestreatmentwork.htm
http://psychservices.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/50/3/349


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Personal Opinion Now Being Given 
(mostly because until google says I can't- I can give it)

I firmly believe that a sexual predator (as the term implies and not
nessasarily a 18 year old that has sex with a 17 year old breaking
some sort of law and getting arrested for it) can never be completely
treated and cured. Although you may be able to take them away form
potential victims- they still are what they are. Even the best
treatments have been know to fail. As an alcoholic is always an
alcoholic dispite the fact that they may not have had a drink in 40
years- they always are susceptible to "falling off the wagon" and
returning to alcohal. The only treatment that I believe may actually
work with a 100% postitive outcome would be death. But then again that
is just my thoughts.
Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: steph53-ga on 16 Feb 2005 15:31 PST
 
Castration would also work, lrulrick...

I believe I heard of such a case. The accused was given a choice of
possible parole if he agreed to castration.

Steph53
Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: lrulrick-ga on 16 Feb 2005 20:37 PST
 
Steph53-

At first consideration I would agree with you, however many believe
that sexual offenders are often not always basing their actions in a
"sexual manner" as one would consider the crime to be. Often it
involves more of a over powering, a belittling of the person they are
assulting and a mental struggle in which they feel the need to make
their victims to be weaker. You must take into consideration that not
all sexual acts can be detered by castration. Many acts of sexual
violance are done without any penetration of offenders sexual organ.
ANd if what they are obtaining is not sexual gratification, but mental
gratification by the victimizing of another- they will likely continue
their abuse even after castration. If you look at child molesters,
many use no penetraion means at all- yet they are most certainly
sexual predators. So I must stick with my belief that death is the
only 100% treatment option when looking for a true "cure".
Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: probonopublico-ga on 16 Feb 2005 21:32 PST
 
Hmmmmmmm

What sexist remarks ......

Surely, it is not politically correct to imply that ALL sexual predators are male?
Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: grthumongous-ga on 16 Feb 2005 22:27 PST
 
I read something in the paper about 8 months ago that gave a ghastly
picture of "true" re-offending rates, not just the subset who are
caught again.

I can't find it now. But as I recall, the "treated" sexual offender
was only slightly better than the "untreated" sexual offender andt
that nearly *half* of them did it it again either way.  In other words
the so-called treatments did not do much. The only real treatment was
old age.

Here is a UK study that emphasises that re-conviction rates are only
the tip of the iceberg when it comes to sexual offenders.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/r183.pdf
Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: lrulrick-ga on 17 Feb 2005 05:25 PST
 
I am hoping that you did not take my comment as sexist- I purely said
why castration was not a foul proof treatment option. I did not mean
to imply that only men are offenders- and thought that my comments
left room for others to see that castration would not work because the
acts are not always with pentration. Which would allow room for the
female offenders in there. I completely understand the fact that there
are many women predators- and that a larger number of them more than
likely go unreported due to the fact that they are women. I attempt
not to be sexist. Sorry if it came off that way.
Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: wyvernsoul-ga on 23 Feb 2005 19:02 PST
 
If someone is classified as a Sexual Predator, the law assumes that
there is no recovery possible. That is why, in virtually every
jurisdiction in the United States, adjudicated Sexual Predators have
stringent reporting and notification requirements for the rest of
their lives.

There are a few classifications of sexual offenders:
"Sexually-Oriented Offender," "Habitual Sexual Offender," and "Sexual
Predator." Each has different reporting requirements, with Sexual
Predator being the most stringent.

Also, someone suggested castration. While that sound attractive, many
male Sexual Predators fondle their victims or make their victims have
sex with others. Thus, even a castrated male Predator can still cause
incredible damage to a child.

Additionally, the vast majority of sexual offenders are male. Some are
women, but most are men.
Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: frequenttraveller-ga on 19 Mar 2005 04:48 PST
 
I believe the comments refering to male sexual predators are a
generalisation rather than an unfair discrimination. There are
undoubtedly many female sexual abusers - but the fact is that for each
one there are many, many more male sexual abusers.

I work in a rape centre with survivors of rape and sexual abuse, and
have learned through my work that the major causative factor tends to
be power rather than lust. It is not uncommon for objects (even
weapons) to be inserted into the survivor instead of the abuser's
bodily parts - and even when penile penetration occurs it is often not
accompanied by ejaculation. The abuse is ususally arranged so as to
cause maximum degradation and to leave the survivor powerless.

Sadly I have to disagree with grthumongous's comment that "The only
real treatment was old age" as I have encountered situations where
abuse begun in childhood (and continuing through the survivor's
adulthood) has only ended on the death (in old age) of the abuser.

I'm unable to fathom the things some human beings will do, and take
enjoyment from doing, to others - but this is actually something I
take solace in.
Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: luciustave-ga on 19 Mar 2005 15:10 PST
 
The overwhelming majority of known sexual offenders is indeed male. Is
it sexist to point out that fact?
Subject: Re: Sexual predators
From: grthumongous-ga on 03 May 2005 18:52 PDT
 
"Emerging but controversial research has found no substantial evidence
that hard-core pedophiles can be treated"

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1115070618423&call_pageid=968350130169&col=969483202845

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