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Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
Category: Science > Social Sciences Asked by: richard2222-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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18 Feb 2005 16:57 PST
Expires: 20 Mar 2005 16:57 PST Question ID: 476878 |
I seek evidence on the following question: How does one know when to trust a snap judgment and when not to? Under what conditions are snap or intuitive judgments better predictors of an event or a person than those based on more information etc? In short, what are the boundary conditions between a trustworthy snap or intuitive judgment and an untrustworthy one? The evidence I seek should be drawn specific experimental studies (including reference citation and brief description, say an abstract) from cognitive or cognitive social psychology. | |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: puffin88-ga on 18 Feb 2005 17:43 PST |
You may already know this, but Malcolm Gladwell has published a book on this just in the last few weeks. The title is "Blink" Here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316172324/qid=1108777407/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-7597080-2706351 |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: richard2222-ga on 19 Feb 2005 04:22 PST |
Yes, of course, I knew about Gladwell's book. The question is derived from his account. It is one he never confronts directly. |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: dancingbear-ga on 20 Feb 2005 12:51 PST |
I have been haunted by your question since the first time I read it- and will get the book "Blink" to see what sparked your it. I'm not really sure your question can be answered completely- certainly not through research- since there could be huge debate as to what defines trustworthy vs untrustworthy. Do you mean snap judgements that are meant to assist us in avoiding physical harm or death? This might be the easiest to set of boundary conditions to study. Whenever we get into a car and pull out onto a street or highway shared with hundereds of other vehicles-our life- and the lives in vehicles around us are in our hands - are we using our intuition to make instantaneous decisions moment by moment? I am curious about this since I spent years working in large organizations on making "better", "Good" or "right" decisions. Interesting enough- when we autopsied the decsions that were being made- good or bad- we discovered that people typically always made decsions that FELT right or good to them. Is this what you mean by "intuition"- a feeling that you have that seems correct to pay attention and or follow? For most of the decsion makers e workedwith we discovered that people collected evidence and data to support the feeling they had about the decision. What was passing as "Fact Based" decision making was really more artful story telling to get others to "feel" the way you did about a paqrticular decision. For some of my clients this was very freeing- for others- especially scientists and engineers- this was very bad news- yet even they admitted in the end that they trusted their core feelings about a decsion. I hope one of the esteemd GA researchers finds this interesting enough to grab this one! |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: cynthia-ga on 21 Feb 2005 05:57 PST |
Hi richard, Decision making is one of my favorite topics, I have to comment... ...Snap decision feelings? Sure, experience them, revel in them, roll in the mud, but I'll wait until the pregnant moment to render my decision.... I have no studies to back up my opinion, except for a wise and very sucessful Father that consciously taught me the art of "Decision Making," and a lifetime of practice in the Art of Decision Making. Decision making, on the whole, is a learned process whether one recognises it or not. If one makes "snap" decisions and gets rewarded early, they come to believe that snap decisions are accurate; -they can be, --but this is not necessarily so. We all want to be right, and I have learned how to right more often... Any decision depends on several factors, otherwise there would be no cognitive functions necessary. The best time to make *any* decision is at the "Pregnant Moment." The process leading up to that moment is the learned ability. Reasoned decision making allows for the feelings and ---------------- of snap decisions. Snap decisions alone leave no room for reasoning, they depend totally on gut instinct. The pregnant moment is defined specifically as the moment when a decision must be rendered, and all relevant information you've gathered up to that moment has been considered, weighed, judged, and now must be voiced in totality as a choice. The moment when you cannot procrastinate the choice any longer because additional time would take away some of your choices. The moment when waiting longer to commit to a choice will become a detriment, not an advantage to the overall decision. Sometimes it's better to be wrong, than to never have chosen at all. Not choosing at all is passive aggressive behavior. Snap decisions [without reasoning] is narcisstic behavior. I employ a process that I fondly call: "calculated waiting" It's okay to have a snap feeling, a direction, an opinion... but you absolutely must remain open minded about all information that might possibly affect your decision and consciously be a sponge, soak up all information that could be relevant. Then, over time, weigh your snap feeling in with the available information and ultimately make a reasoned decision. But only at the pregnant moment, never before. Decision making is a learned process. With practice, the process becomes like driving a car, automatic and effortless. ...Snap decision feelings? Sure, experience them, revel in them, roll in the mud, but I'll wait until the pregnant moment to render my decision. My humble opinion... ~~Cynthia |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: cynthia-ga on 21 Feb 2005 06:31 PST |
Sorry ... ------------- = [some word I still can't remember], --possibly "inclinations". Hence, the sentence would read: ...Reasoned decision making allows for the feelings and inclinations of snap decisions. Snap decisions alone leave no room for reasoning, they depend totally on gut instinct... |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: richard2222-ga on 21 Feb 2005 07:49 PST |
Cynthia: Thank you for your clarification and earlier comment. I appreciate your interest. I will ponder the matter, still hoping to get some comparative studies, that is, evidence (ideally experimental studies) comparing the reliability of intuitive or snap judgments verusus more reasoned ones under the same conditions. Richard (rkatzev@teleport.com) |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: sublime1-ga on 21 Feb 2005 10:31 PST |
richard... I can only tell you a story of something that happened to me, in which my life was saved by an instantaneous response that was not based on reasoning or even on normal sensory input. I'll leave it to you to decide whether to call it intuitive. I was driving to work, as I did on a daily basis, on a crowded 8-lane divided highway (not a freeway), in Virginia, with a speed limit of about 45. I was driving a '67 Volkswagen van, headed north. The previous morning, as traffic passed over a bridge which spanned a river, I had noticed the attractive orange of the sunrise in the space between the trees and other impediments to sight on either side of the river. It was an amazing sight with a gorgeous color, but I only got to see it for an instant, glancing to my right as we passed it, since I had caught it out of the corner of my eye, and turned too late to see it fully. This morning, I had decided (a reasoned decision) to get a better look at this inspiring sight. As the heavy traffic approached the bridge, I carefully observed it, noting the absence of brake lights in the four lanes ahead, which indicated that traffic was flowing smoothly, and might afford me a good look. I slowed slightly to create some space in front of me, should I need it, but not so much as to let another car cut in. Having thus prepared, I looked to the right to catch this awesome view of the sunrise, which would surely be unavailable in a couple of days, as the time of sunrise advanced. Sure enough, as the trees on the south bank gave way to the horizon provided by the river, I was rewarded with the glorious orange of the sun as it kissed the horizon goodbye on its way to the heights of the sky. I was almost entranced, captivated by this beauty to the temporary exclusion of anything else. Suddenly, I felt a jolt in the pit of my stomach, and found my right leg coming off the gas pedal and hitting the brake. All of this was actually occurring *as* my head was turning back to look forward, and without any volition on the part of my consciousness. I saw that the car in front of me had braked, due to something slowing the traffic in the lane further ahead. I was going too fast, and was too close to stop without hitting it. So I started turning into the lane to my left *as* I looked in the right-side safety mirror to see if there was a space. Thankfully, there was, and I narrowly missed the car ahead of me as I squeeked into the left lane and passed. All of this occurred without any conscious awareness, until my turning head took in what was happening. Before that, I was already braking, without any idea why I was doing so. There had been no indication, such as a peripheral vision of the brake lights of the car ahead, to give me any awareness of a problem. I've had a couple of other experiences of such a phenomena, which weren't life-threatening situations, which seemed to indicate that the body itself has this amazing sensitivity to what is going on around it, and that our normal conscious process is slow by comparison, and often, when something seems to catch our attention, our consciousness is simply "catching up" with something of which the body has already been aware. In those instances, since the situation wasn't life-threatening, there was no "jolt", but rather a smooth transition, which I was fortunate enough to become aware of. But when the situation is more dangerous, my experience tells me that the body is able to not only be aware of, but also respond to those situations, without the cooperation of (or, for that matter, the interference of) the conscious mind. So I'd say that when snap decisions are based on the body's apparently much greater awareness of a situation than the conscious mind's slower, narrower, and thought-based process, they are definitely to be trusted with your life. Of course, distinguishing these "gut reactions" from emotional responses (which are usually based on our thought processes) may take some refined discernment. The key is to notice whether some form of conscious process such as thoughts or beliefs preceeded the snap decision. In the life-threatening instance I described, it was clear that they were not involved, but in the subtler situations of daily life, the difference may not be as easily discernible. In daily life, beliefs may produce subtle emotional responses which look and feel like true gut reactions from the body's great intelligence and sensitivity, but may simply amount to prejudices based on transparent beliefs. If you find that this personal experience satisfies your inquiry, let me know, and I'll post it as an official answer. Otherwise, I hope it serves to illuminate the topic. sublime1-ga |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: dancingbear-ga on 21 Feb 2005 10:53 PST |
There's actually a term used to decribe the phenomena in sublime1-ga's story. Proprioceptive intelligence. This is being used more and more to ackowledge and honor the broader intelligence located throughout our body and even environment- that when we are connected or open to it - expands our capacity for "intuitve" insight and action. |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: richard2222-ga on 21 Feb 2005 16:29 PST |
Dear Sublime1-ga (and dancingbear-ga): Thank you for your detailed report of your driving experience. Surely not all instances of ?body?s great intelligence? as you put it or ?proprioceptive intelligence? as dancingbear-ga puts it are to be trusted. For example, in your own example, you might not have been so fortunate to have an open space as you veered into the left lane. If that had been the case, I don?t think you would want (or perhaps even be able) to say your body was quite so intelligent. Again, sometimes the wisdom of the body fails us, say for example, when our appetite leads to overeat, or when our eyes deceive us as they do with countless visual illusions. Therefore, the intelligence of the body does have limits. When and under what conditions should we trust the snap judgments of our body? The answer to that question cannot be based on anecdotal evidence. What we need are investigations that begin to specify the boundary conditions between trustworthy and non-trustworthy responses of the kind you and dancingbear-ga describe. |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: sublime1-ga on 21 Feb 2005 18:47 PST |
richard... While I can appreciate your interest in a more precise study of the phenomena I described, at the least, I should clarify your apparent misperception of the details of my story, and your resulting conclusions. You noted: "...you might not have been so fortunate to have an open space as you veered into the left lane. If that had been the case, I don?t think you would want (or perhaps even be able) to say your body was quite so intelligent." I should point out that the steering into the left lane was something I consciously chose to do *after* I was able to take in the situation: "I saw that the car in front of me had braked, due to something slowing the traffic in the lane further ahead. I was going too fast, and was too close to stop without hitting it. So I started turning into the lane to my left *as* I looked in the right-side safety mirror to see if there was a space." That was a "reasoned decision", and I was aware of the risk I was taking before I was able to confirm the empty space in the lane. This is in complete contrast to the response of hitting the brakes prior to my head even turning to see the situation. It was entirely automatic, and completely independent of my conscious awareness: "Suddenly, I felt a jolt in the pit of my stomach, and found my right leg coming off the gas pedal and hitting the brake. All of this was actually occurring *as* my head was turning back to look forward, and without any volition on the part of my consciousness." That, and that alone, is the only part of my experience which I am saying represented some astonishing sensitivity and intelligence of the body, which, though perhaps impossible to control or invite, is worthy of complete confidence. I'm sorry if that wasn't as clear as it could have been. Perhaps the asterisked *as* in the second part of the story, after I was made conscious of the situation, contributed to the perception that turning into the left lane was part of the same movement that had me hitting the brakes in the first place. Sadly, while I'm convinced that this particular phenomena represents the epitome of trustworthiness when it comes to snap decisions or judgments, I'm also quite certain that attempting to study and/or comprehend it with the slower, narrower processes of the intellect would be comparable to trying to understand the essence of a bird with a microscope. The instrument just isn't up to the task, not to mention that the intervention of the body's intelligence in this way is not something I'm aware of as being reproducible on demand. So I don't believe you'll find such a study, at least in regard to this particular basis for 'snap' decisions. sublime1-ga |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: richard2222-ga on 22 Feb 2005 08:17 PST |
Dear Sublime1-ga: Thank you for your clarification. I now understand your experience better. However, I wish to take issue with your claim about the potential for investigating the question I posed. Comparable questions are studied in and out of the lab by cognitive scientists in several disciplines. Perhaps this one has not. Perhaps it is too difficult to study. Perhaps the proposed answers will fail to get at the heart of the matter. I am aware that there are many questions that cannot be adequately answered by experimental analysis, at least, not yet. In contrast, a goodly number have been. I'd rather wait for the evidence to fall into place before concluding the question does not lend itself to empirical inquiry. |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: sandyhookroad-ga on 19 Mar 2005 09:14 PST |
Another book which seems to substantiate "BLINK" is "THE GIFT OF FEAR" by Cavin DeBecker. Mr. DeBecker is an expert in protecting people and in discusses when to listen to one's intuition about danger. He really explains it well and I recommend it highly. |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: richard2222-ga on 19 Mar 2005 14:44 PST |
Thank you for the suggestion. I will look into the book. |
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Re: Intuitive versus Reasoned Decision Making
From: egon6-ga on 28 May 2005 08:38 PDT |
Tons and tons of work. Never heard of Gladwell. Try: Gigerenzer, G. (1996). On narrow norms and vague heuristics: A reply to Kahneman and Tversky. Psychological Review, 103, 592-596. Gigerenzer, G., & Todd, P. M. (1999). Fast and frugal heuristics: The adaptive tool box. In G. Gigerenzer, P. M. Todd, & the ABC Research Group (Eds.), Simple heuristics that make us smart (pp. 3-34). Oxford: Oxford University Press. Hammond, K. R. (1996). Human judgment and social policy: Irreducible uncertainty, inevitable error, unavoidable injustice. New York: Oxford University Press. Read also about- Coherance metatheory (reasoned/analytical) and correspondance metatheory (intuition)for a discussion on evaluating competencies. There is no single boundry condition- Depends on the ecological context the brain is embedded in as well as individual difference variables (search probabilistic functionalism). Primarily- reasoned thought is evaluated by the extent to which a person follows (coheres) to a specific algorithm/rule/axiom/normative model etc. Intuition is benchmarked by the correlation with an actual outcome..or its accuracy (how it corresponds to a criterion)... Finally, please appreciate that the ability for intuition is in our genes.. its adaptive. "reasoned thought (application of propositional logic, ideological maxims, Baysian/Fisherian statistics, mathematics, etc...) came much much much later and it must be formally learned. |
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