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Tacitus, Roman and Greek thought on war, peace, and spreading freedom.
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: larg-ga List Price: $50.00 |
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19 Feb 2005 05:12 PST
Expires: 21 Mar 2005 05:12 PST Question ID: 477039 |
Tacitus said about the Romans at Carthage, "You have made a desert and call it peace". Did he continue to develop this thought? Did other Roman historians counter this thought? Have other Roman or Greek authors commented on the role of war in spreading freedom to other countries-either pro or con? |
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Re: Tacitus, Roman and Greek thought on war, peace, and spreading freedom.
From: frde-ga on 19 Feb 2005 07:12 PST |
Remember they spread salt on Carthage - their equivalent of 'glassing' the place Perhaps 'Freedom is in the eye of the bestowers' |
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Re: Tacitus, Roman and Greek thought on war, peace, and spreading freedom.
From: amber00-ga on 19 Feb 2005 13:50 PST |
Your quotation is incorrectly attributed. It is from Tacitus, but is from his life of Agricola (Agricola was Tacitus's father-in-law). The quotation comes at the end of chapter 30 of the 'Agricola'. The context is NOT Carthage. The scene is at Mons Graupius, (Graupius Mountain) in Britain. A bunch of Britons, led by Calgacus (also spelled as Galgacus) are facing the Roman invaders. In Chapter 30, Calgacus gives a hortatory speech before the battle. It includes the words, 'They (the Romans) make a desert and call it peace.' So, it wasn't Carthage. And it is Tacitus imagining what an early Briton would say when facing a Roman invasion. He wasn't there, so the speech must have been invented by Tacitus. Here is a link to an undistinguished translation: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/tacitus-agricola.html |
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Re: Tacitus, Roman and Greek thought on war, peace, and spreading freedom.
From: amber00-ga on 19 Feb 2005 15:27 PST |
Incidentally, I've just looked in my Latin copy of the book ('De Vita Agricolae') and the Latin phrase is: ' atque ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant' 'And where they make a desert and call it peace'. |
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