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Subject: Sedona, AZ floors
Category: Family and Home
Asked by: sedonaaz-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 21 Feb 2005 14:52 PST
Expires: 23 Mar 2005 14:52 PST
Question ID: 478324
Is wood floors in Sedona, AZ a good choice for a new home?  Are there
termite problems in Sedona which might make wood floors not a good
choice?
For feet and back comfort, is wood better than tile or stone?  
Is there any advantage for tile over stone, except for price?  
Any suggestion as to a tile that looks like stone if stone is too expensive?
Thanks.
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Subject: Re: Sedona, AZ floors
Answered By: crabcakes-ga on 21 Feb 2005 22:27 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hi again, sedonaaz!

   When I moved from the East coast to the Phoenix,  Arizona area, I
felt like I had moved to another country! Many homes have air
conditioners on the roof, gravel instead of grass in the yard, cactus
in place of trees, and tiled roofs instead of shingles. I?ve since
come to appreciate the geographical differences here in Arizona,
though I do miss greenery and snow at times.

   Most homes in Arizona have tile floors, even small modest homes
have tile flooring. Other homes have carpeting over a cement slab.
While termites exist in abundance in Arizona, these pests are not the
reason wood floors are not much in use. The real reason? Humidity, or
I should say, the lack of humidity. The lack of humidity will cause
the wood to dry out, shrink and split. The casual lifestyle in Arizona
does not call for an elaborate labor intensive floor maintenance
schedule, hence tile is the floor covering of choice in Arizona. I
understand the new laminate pseudo-wood flooring such as Pergo, does
well in Arizona. If you have nice wood furniture, expect to apply
linseed oil once or twice a year to lessen drying out of the wood. My
antique china cabinet has really shrunk, with gaps where the wood
meets at joints. (I set small bowls of water inside to raise the
humidity inside)

Pergo
http://www.pergo.com/SplashDefault.asp

Other laminate flooring
http://www.laminatewoodfloor.com/


   Tile floors ARE  harder on the feet, legs, and back than wood,
carpet or linoleum. Some people use anti-fatigue mats at the sink,
stove and the laundry room, as these are areas where people stand for
long periods of time. I found using soccer sandals or plastic clogs
while doing chores, along with a spongy anti-fatigue mat at the sink
and stove makes a significant difference in foot, leg, and back
tiredness. These mats are regularly in stock at area Target stores.

   Tile floors are so much easier to care for than carpeting or wooden
floors. Stone floors are much more costly, and are often not level,
making walking uncomfortable and cleaning harder. If you have no pets,
a quick pass with a Swiffer will pick up most dust, and a wet mop with
a mild cleanser as needed will suffice. Your floors will dry in no
time in the dry Arizona air.

   As far as kinds of tile, I believe that would be a personal choice.
There are thousands of varieties to be found in Arizona. If you don?t
find what you like in Sedona, make a short trip to the Phoenix area
and make your purchase. Some of the most popular are Saltillo tile and
ceramic tile, and yes, there are many stone or rustic looking tiles
available. Saltillo tiles are gorgeous if you like the rustic look.
Terra cotta colored, these tiles are some of the cheapest to purchase,
but installation is more expensive as they need more layers of sealer
than ceramic tile. For some Mexicans, saltillo tile making is a family
business, the backyard being the ?plant?. Because the tiles bake in
the sun, in the yard, some have residual animal footprints in them.
This became so chic that some makers now stamp the tiles with paw
prints, if a batch is missed by the family dog!


 Routine ceramic tile care and maintenance
===========================================
 
·Tile and floor covering stores sell cleaning products developed
specifically for cleaning ceramic tile and stone. These specialized
cleaning products generally outperform products available in
supermarkets or hardware stores.
·Remove soil with a broom, non-oily dust mop or vacuum 
·Damp mop or spot clean as necessary, using Armstrong Once ?n Done
floor cleaner* or a pH neutral tile cleaner.
·Thoroughly rinse all areas with clean, warm water. 
·Ceramic tile floors, like other types of smooth floors, can become
slippery when wet. Allow time for floor to dry after washing.
Immediately wipe up wet areas from spills, foreign substances or wet
feet.
·We recommend protecting your floor against abrasive dirt at entrances
to buildings with dirt catching floor mats.
http://www.armstrong.com/resceramicna/maintenance_and_care.jsp

About tile
http://www.ceramic-tile-floor.info/

http://www.carpetcorneronline.com/ceramic_tile.htm

Purchasing Tile
http://www.infotile.com.au/features/purchasing/index.shtml

http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/flooring/thoughts.htm


Ceramic or Stone?
==================

Ceramic is a man-made product and is generally homogeneous in
construction. In other words, each and every tile has the identical
composition and therefore has predictable qualities. On the other
hand, stone tile is a product of nature and can differ in composition
from tile to tile and therefore has unpredictable qualities.
Ceramic tiles are generally non to slightly porous with a very low
absorbency. Stone tiles can be very absorbent and for this reason can
cause several different setting problems. Test data is available for
many common stones and should be requested by the consultant. Ceramic
tile is generally light weight and relatively thin. Stone tile ranges
from 3/8-inch thick to as much as 1 1/4-inch thick and can be very
heavy. A 12-inch square stone tile can weigh as much as 10 pounds or
more.
The backside of a ceramic tile is cast with many different corrugation
designed to provide the proper bonding of the tile to the setting bed.
The backside of a stone tile has no corrugation and is generally
saw-cut or smoothed. Ceramic tile is generally resistant to acids.
Certain stone tile, marble for example, is very sensitive to acids.
http://www.ceramic-tile-floor.info/choosetile.htm



Illustrations of tile:
=======================

Terra Cotta
http://www.bettini.com/manetti.htm

Saltillo Tile
http://saltillotilecompany.com/floor.html

Arizona Tile has lots of information
http://www.arizonatile.com/



Termites in Sedona:
====================

AREAS OF HIGH RISK IN ARIZONA include Apache Junction, Avondale,
Bullhead, Casa Grande, Chandler, Cottonwood, Douglas-AZ, El Mirage,
Eloy, Flagstaff, Florence-AZ, Fountain Hills, Gilbert, Glendale-AZ,
Goodyear, Kingman, Lake Havasu, Marana, Mesa, Nogales, Oro Valley,
Paradise Valley, Payson-AZ, Peoria-AZ, Phoenix, Prescott, Prescott
Valley, San Luis, Scottsdale, Sedona, Sierra Vista, Surprise, Tempe,
Tucson and Yuma.
http://www.termite.com/termites/arizona.html


Wood Floor Maintenance:
========================

?Wood damaged by subterranean termites is often not noticed because
the exterior surface usually must be removed to see the damage.
However, galleries can be detected by tapping the wood every few
inches with the handle of a screwdriver. Damaged wood sounds hollow,
and the screwdriver may even break through into the galleries.
Subterranean termite feeding follows the grain of the wood and only
the soft springwood is attacked. Unlike dry wood termites or other
wood boring insects, subterranean termites do not push wood particles
or pellets (fecal material) to the outside, but rather use it in the
construction of their tunnels. This debris, along with sand and soil
particles, is used as a form of plaster.?
http://www.woodfloorsonline.com/techtalk/faqs.html#11

http://www.finishingwoodfloors.com/technical_help/maintenance.html




Tile Retailers in Sedona, AZ
://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&safe=active&c2coff=1&q=tile&near=Sedona%2C+AZ&btnG=Search&sc=1


Tile Retailers in the Phoenix metropolitan area, 27 pages 
://www.google.com/local?q=tile&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=active&sa=X&near=Phoenix,+AZ&radius=45.000000




Crabcakes' Own Tips (from my own experience):
=============================================

Purchase a tile or two of  tiles you like. Some retailers will give
you one tile. Take them home and look at them at different times of
the day. Consider the colors of your walls and furnishings.

Try to install the tile before you move in. This is much easier!

Wet tile is very slippery. Wipe up spills immediately, and never run
across a freshly mopped floor! (I told you this was from MY
experience!)

Don?t use the tile installer the store recommends, unless budget is no
problem. Ask neighbors for a good tiler. This sounds odd, but, ask an
Hispanic landscaper for a recommendation. Ask an Hispanic who is
looking for tiles in a Home Depot or Lowe?s. Most worthwhile
independent tile installers have a photo portfolio and will be very
proud of their work. You can call or visit previous customers for a
reference. (I did this with excellent results) Look in the paper for
independent tillers.

Buy more tiles than you need. You may need to replace one in the
future and have difficulty finding matching tiles. Also, plan on some
breakage.

Tile with a rustic or ?stone? look shows less dirt, and is very attractive.

Tile floors will keep you home cooler in the summer. A few area rugs
will help warm up your home in the winter. I have never felt my floor
tiles too cold to step on though!

If you or a family member has allergies, tile is the way to go!

Most tile does not stain, but some do, and stone definitely does. Ask
the merchant about stains.

Seal your grout. Even of the tile seller says you don?t need to do so,
seal your grout. There are plenty of  time saving seal applicators in
the hardware stores. Reseal every year or so, depending on traffic.

Remember, tile floors are HARD. When you drop a can or a tool, the
tile may chip or shatter. My husband installed a two inch strip of
wood on our pantry shelves, painted to match. This was to prevent jars
from crashing to the floor. I take a few extra precautions with
fragile items.   I purchased several sample tiles of my final choices,
and laid them on my floor. I next dropped a 16oz can of pumpkin pie
filling on each one, to see if they would chip or shatter. The
toughest tile won!


Select a complimentary grout color, one you LIKE. Don?t let people
tell you light colored grout will turn dark. I chose a mauve grout,
sealed it and resealed it every two years. It is still light in color
and I like it so much better than dark grout. Some tile stores will
have grids depicting grout color that can be placed next to tile so
you can see how it contrast with your tile. Buy 2-3 extra bags of
grout, extra?s can be returned, but keep ONE. Purchase a few tubes of
squeezable grout for future repairs. Grout around areas that sustain a
lot of motion may suffer hairline cracks, and the squeezable grout is
wonderful for quick repairs.

To save money and have a more rustic look, consider having the tiler
use a tile cut in half as ?molding? instead of more expensive
bull-nose tile. You will need something up the wall a few inches to
prevent staining the wall when mopping. Speaking of wet mopping, use a
string mop, or one of the newer strip mops. Don?t use a sponge mop as
this kind of mop shoves the dirt into the grout.

Purchase ?sliders? at the local Target to place under dining room
chairs, and furniture. This makes moving furniture a breeze, and save
your floors. Your dining room chairs will glide in and out from the
table, silently and smoothly.

Tile inside closets and pantries too, for a smoother look.

Consider tiling the sidewalk outside your front door, for 2-3 feet,
with the same tile. This looks elegant and is much easier to clean
than cement. We tiled our back porch and step, and it looks lovely.
You can purchase a pray that will add a light texture to the tile if
you are afraid of falls when the tile is wet.
  

Hope this answers all your questions! Please request an Answer
Clarification, before rating, if I have left anything uncovered (Pun
intended)! Happy Flooring!

Sincerely, Crabcakes

Search Terms
Ceramic Tile
Termites Sedona Arizona
Saltillo tile

Request for Answer Clarification by sedonaaz-ga on 24 Feb 2005 19:29 PST
Crabcakes, you are a wealth of information!  Thanks for the great
research.  One more question.  One of the differences, as I
understand, between stone and tile is that you can seal the stone and
grout with one sealer.  Am I correct, that tile must be seal with one
sealer and then you seal the grout with another sealer.  This is a
hard task to do every 3 years or so because it's time consuming to
just seal the grout and be careful not to get onto the tile,
particularly if you are doing the whole house. I suppose there is not
a sealer that will do both that does not affect the look of the tile? 
Thanks.

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 24 Feb 2005 21:09 PST
Hello again,

    I agree, using a separate sealer for tile and grout would be too
much work ? there?re too many FUN things to do. If you choose saltillo
or stone tile, you can indeed use one sealer on tile and grout. You
will need to seal the tile, then install the grout, and seal the
entire floor.
http://www.stonetechpro.com/stonecare/idx/22/097/article/Impregnator-Pro-Stone-Tile--Grout-Sealer.html

?All natural stone floors must be sealed both before and after
grouting.  Ensure that the tiles are completely cleaned of all mortar,
grout and foreign material prior to sealing.  (Some sawcut
limestones/travertines may have slight rust staining on the tile
surface that is a result of the cutting/manufacturing process.  This
can be easily removed with a 5%-10% dilute solution of Muriatic acid
left on the tile for 10-15 seconds and then neutralized and removed.) 
When the stone is thoroughly dry, after the mortar is set and the tile
cleaned, apply one coat of the appropriate sealer.  Allow to dry for
24 hours and then apply the grout, clean again and allow to dry before
the final coat of sealer.  Follow the sealer manufacturer?s
instructions carefully.  Penetrating sealers are recommended for all
stones and do not alter their natural appearance.  A final coat of
colour enhancer can be applied to deepen and intensify the natural
colour of the stone.
A regular maintenance programme should be established for sealing and
cleaning of the material.  Neutral pH cleaners can be used for
day-to-day maintenance, with more powerful cleaners or poultices for
specific stains.   The stone should be resealed from 1 to 3 years in
commercial applications and 2 to 6 years for residential.?
http://www.stone-tile.com/appendices/gen%20install.htm


Most experts recommend a water based grout sealer.  You will need to
seal stone and saltillo tiles, but not ceramic tile. All kinds of tile
should have the grout sealed. If you spill water based grout sealer on
the tile, it does not show. I spilled plenty, and when dry, it was
completely invisible.

This sealer states is should last about 5 years.
http://www.aquamix.com/gs.htm

This one claims to last 3-5 years. Remember it depends on amount of
traffic the tile receives.
http://www.stonetechpro.com/products/protect/gs/

This is the tool I used to seal my grout, on hands and knees.
http://ecommerce1.securesites.com/storefront/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MAGIC&Product_Code=turbostick&Category_Code=t%26g

Only after I finished did I learn about this applicator wand:
http://www.groutwand.com/

This is an interesting, but more expensive alternative sealant:
http://tools4flooring.com/gundlach-sm02-easy-care-grout-shield-p-317.html

Yes, sealing the grout is a time consuming task, but consider the
amount of time to care for carpeting or wood floors. I feel the time
to care for a tile floor is much less, and is aesthetically pleasing
too. Tile floors do not require waxing or buffing. Tile floors do not
need shampooing/steam cleaning or replacement.

Hope this answers your clarification!
Sincerely, Crabcakes
sedonaaz-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
Excellent information and very informative.  Great job and I
appreciate the data very much!

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Subject: Re: Sedona, AZ floors
From: crabcakes-ga on 25 Feb 2005 17:04 PST
 
Thank you sedonaaz, for the rating and the nice tip!
Regards, Crabcakes

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