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Subject:
Wireless network sharing
Category: Computers Asked by: alphadog-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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27 Feb 2005 10:37 PST
Expires: 29 Mar 2005 10:37 PST Question ID: 481822 |
My daughter lives one block away. She has a wireless network in her house and wants me to connect to it in my house so that when she is visting she can use my computer. I currently have dial up service. Her laptop computer is able to run on her home wireless network when she comes to my house so her signal appears to be strong enough to make this possible. She tells me all I need is a wireless card 802.11G installed in my computer (A three year old pc Dell)and then I will be able to share her signal and be wireless. Is this true? If not, what other hardware do I need? Is there a way to strengthen the signal from her netork on my end and if she is accurate where do I install the wireless card? I have installed memory in the past so am familiar where that type card is installed. Thanks for your help. John |
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Re: Wireless network sharing
From: googlenut-ga on 27 Feb 2005 11:09 PST |
Hello alphadog-ga, I am by no means a computer networking expert, but I did just what you are describing with my next door neighbor this week. He purchased a wireless USB adapter and it works just fine. I don't know how the wireless card works, but the adapter looks simpler to me. Here's a link to the adapter he is using: BestBuy.com Linksys 802.11g Wireless USB Adapter http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1061769818475&skuId=5974065&type=product Googlenut |
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Re: Wireless network sharing
From: athena4-ga on 27 Feb 2005 11:20 PST |
She's right - all you'll need is a 802.11 card (preferably 802.11G if that's what she recommended, or an 802.11B because they are also compatible). For examples, please see http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WG311.php and http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=635 and note there are several other manufacturers that make such cards. You do not need any other hardware except the antenna (which should come with the card - make sure it does). You can do a websearch on < 802.11G network adapter cards > or a similar phrase to find more of them. Since you have a desktop PC, a card with the PCI interface (like those shows in the websites above) is what you'll need. For buying, you can use froogle (http://froogle.google.com/froogle) and type in < 801.11g adapter cards PCI > and get pricing information, or buy locally. To install the card, please see http://compreviews.about.com/od/tutorials/ss/DIYPCICard.htm for help - that page includes pictures (your computer may vary slightly from those pictures). The card should come with a software driver, so install it after you install the card on the PC (that should be explained in the sheet of paper or manual that comes with the card). After that, there is the process of connecting to the network. Since your daughter has done the work to set up the access point at her end, it should be simple at your end. See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/bowman_05february10.mspx and the part that's relevant is about halfway down the page with title "Configure Other Wireless Computers Automatically" - and since your daughter has already set up her laptop, she can help you with that, then you'll be all set to use her high speed network. |
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Re: Wireless network sharing
From: athena4-ga on 27 Feb 2005 11:32 PST |
Ah - I must have been typing the answer at the same time as googlenut-ga. The USB adapter solution will work also (though possibly at a slower speed, depending on your computer's USB interface and the speeds you are able to achieve the network connection, but will most likely be faster than the dial up modem!). The benefit of the PCI card is that persumably the receiver/antenna combination will be more sensitive ad can pick up signals from further away. But the USB "key" adapter gives you the flexibility of attaching an extension cable and hence the ability to position the antenna for better signal reception. (I'd have recommended the USB if your daughter lived in the next house or two, instead of a block away). So the trade off between the two is not clear (and wireless signal strength generally depends on several variables). Either one may work for you - I have a slight preference for the PCI card solution (an extension cable for the antenna, if it needs to be positioned at a different spot, it also a possibility). Now we are getting into secondary level considerations, so I'll stop here. Good luck. |
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Re: Wireless network sharing
From: dcady-ga on 28 Feb 2005 11:12 PST |
I do networking at my office and I thought I'd post. Once you purchase your 802.11g wireless card, you will run into the problem of your daughter's wireless station being too far away to actually recieve a signal. Wireless networking stations transmit up to 150 feet away, if you are a block away, you are most likely out of range. You will need to purchase a wireless network extender, such as the D-LINK HIGH SPEED RANGE EXTENDER (http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=267). Your daughter will have to plug this into her cable modem and it will extend the signal of her wireless transmitter. This can add up to 50% range on your transmitter, which would make the signal reach from 150' to the extended 225'. Once you're outside of that range, you're stuck out of luck, you'll have to keep your dial-up or purchase high speed service of your own. The good thing is, once this is in place, your daughter can set up a password for your network so only those of you with the password can access your network, protecting your computers and the information you may be transmitting. Hope this was helpful. |
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Re: Wireless network sharing
From: balamurali80-ga on 01 Mar 2005 14:42 PST |
Hi, Your daughter is correct. You will require a Wireless Card to connect to a Wireless Network. This card can be installed inside your desktop box on a PCI slot (similar to memory installation). The hardware manufacturer will give detailed instructions on how to install the card. You can refer to the following list of Wireless Cards that are available in the market: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?hl=en&lr=&tab=wf&q=Wireless+networking+card To strengthen the wireless signal you need to install a access point at your home. Following are the products that you can refer for boosting signals: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?hl=en&lr=&tab=wf&q=wireless+signal+booster If you need futher clarifications, please let me know. Thanks, Murali |
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Re: Wireless network sharing
From: mark_bett-ga on 03 Mar 2005 17:48 PST |
As was stated earlier you will of course need a wireless adapter and a signal booster but if she truely lives a block away I doubt that it will be practical for her to actaully recieve a signal. Even if she does it will probably be pretty flakey with only a singal signal booster. Assuming you can get teh connection to reach that far I would recommend that you add one booster to her wireless access point and use a unidirectional wireless antenna to focus the wireless signal towards your house. At your house I would suggest setting up another wireless access point in ad-hoc mode so it will recieve the signal from her house and then serve as an access point in your house. Doing this will allow her to roam more freely throughout your house because the signal will be more consistent and she will be accessing the access point in your house instead of trying to find the signal from her house. Uni-directional antenas aren't cheap: http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=114803&store=macmall&source=mwbfroogle&adcampaign=email,mwbfroogle&wt.mc_id=mwbfroogle http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=wifi%20antenna&complete=1&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wf but this would be a one time cost (assumeing it all works out) as opposed to having to pay for 2 ISP connections (a monthly cost). While possible the idea you are tracking down may be a bit of a headache to actually set up and fine tune. |
Subject:
Re: Wireless network sharing
From: shelfimage-ga on 09 Mar 2005 06:23 PST |
Just a quick security note. Please, have some serious thoughts about the security of your daughter's wireless network. All are offering fantastic comments about the your options of wireles cards/adapters and methods of extending one's reach, I'd make note of your daughter's wireless router, google it for the proper configs to secure your privacy. Maybe it's been done by default, maybe not. It's definelty worth looking into and even asking for local help or reviewing mfg. documentation to set it up properly to create a private network so others can not freely connect. |
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Re: Wireless network sharing
From: silvertonbay-ga on 09 Mar 2005 06:32 PST |
Go to http://www.steves.bz scroll down and find "ASK STEVES BZ MAIL" click and send him an e-mail & he will tell you exactly what to do. (parts, set-up specifics, etc. *Wireless Expert* He set up my laptop to auto search for signals while I'm on the road. He does not advertise it but he will help you do almost anything for free the first time if you are nice and polite! (PS e-mail, do not call him on the toll free number or he may charge you something. He's in NJ, USA but it doesn't matter where you are. Just tell him in your e-mail you where reffered from Google Answers. Good Luck |
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Re: Wireless network sharing
From: rcetc-ga on 10 Mar 2005 13:07 PST |
Two things you need to consider. You say you have an older computer, most cards require win98 se or higher and a CPU speed of 300 MHZ. At this speed your best option is a D-Link and you would be operating at .b not .g. Second you need to check with her to see if her wireless router/modem will handle .a .b .g or .n. If she uses SBC home networking and uses 2wire 1000HW she can only operate at .b. There is much more to the game but it?s always fun to play. There are external wireless units that use amplified antenna systems that may get you the distance you need without a range extender. Networking is a fast past and ever-changing industry. Have fun. www.rcetc.com |
Subject:
Re: Wireless network sharing
From: gcwe2004-ga on 02 Apr 2005 18:02 PST |
The Best way to do it is to Use 3 DWL-2100AP and put 2 in bridge mode and get 2 external antennas to connect the two and a 1 for your house. This will let you pass up to 108mbps up to 1 mile and have a 108mbps access point in your house. |
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