|
|
Subject:
factorization wanted
Category: Science > Math Asked by: shadowgate-ga List Price: $3.00 |
Posted:
01 Aug 2002 16:09 PDT
Expires: 31 Aug 2002 16:09 PDT Question ID: 48267 |
|
There is no answer at this time. |
|
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: philip_lynx-ga on 02 Aug 2002 02:53 PDT |
Hi shadowgate, this is a 463 bit number. Assuming it contains exactly two prime factors (which I am virtually sure of), you are asking someone to spend about 3 CPU years (at least) on this problem. Curiosity arises: Where did you get the number from? You may want to have a look at: http://www.iaeste.dk/~henrik/projects/nfsnet.html Also, did you consider to acquire the GNFS software that was used for the RSA-155 challenge? Good luck, Philip |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: jes5199-ga on 02 Aug 2002 13:46 PDT |
just as an excercize in futility, i'm trying to factor this number using a BASH script with bc (command line calculator) on a 486 i can tell you that it's larger than 6374 |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: jes5199-ga on 02 Aug 2002 14:15 PDT |
at this rate i should have an answer in 428917496440252629712552703040046760972986210464782978825852513198420850995980949948691625360032572675496941675135962204613375408563 years! |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: thenextguy-ga on 03 Aug 2002 20:29 PDT |
I wouldn't have typed in that number for $3. Good luck. |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: tne-ga on 08 Aug 2002 11:24 PDT |
This might be the answer to your question? I am posting this also for tohers interested to read "POLYNOMIAL TIME PRIME NUMBER TESTING ALGORITHM" http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/news/primality.html http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/07/0151216.shtml?tid=172 |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: alpertron-ga on 20 Aug 2002 12:40 PDT |
Unluckily tne's comment does not answer shadowgate's question, because he already knows that the number is composite. There is no need to run a primality test for the number above. For the curious, if a^(n-1) != 1 (mod n) the number n is not prime (the converse is not true). The exponentiation can be done in about 1.3(log n/log 2) multiplications using the binary exponentiation method. Taking a=3 and n the number posted by shadowgate we obtain in a fraction of second: a^(n-1) = 3796477839673969003690140114661459934350723235127945290770617\ 3851937432211158970815302259003086016178126090007991341518025\ 807031118310589718 (mod n) so the number is composite (the symbol \ indicates that the number continues in the following line. |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: tne-ga on 20 Aug 2002 21:36 PDT |
hi alpetron n|(a^(n-1) - 1) if n fails this n is not prime but if passes it maybe prime I assumed it passes this and it was probably a prime Thanks for pointing out my mistake. I did implement this C++ code but was lazy to implement for large numbers. # include <iostream.h> int power(int x,int n) { if(n<=0) return 1; if(n==1) return x; int temp = power(x,n/2); return (temp * temp * power(x,n%2) ); } int main() { cout << power(3,5) << endl; return 0; } |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: alpertron-ga on 21 Aug 2002 06:52 PDT |
tne, For this kind of tasks it is better to start with a program that handles big numbers. I use UBASIC, that you can download for free on Internet. Another possibility is to test it online. Just use my factorization applet located at: http://www.alpertron.com.ar/ECM.HTM Just copy and paste the number on the applet and it will tell you that the number is composite, then it will start factoring it. Since this number is very difficult to factor (otherwise shadowgate would not have posted it here) the applet will not finish execution in a short period of time. I hope this helps. |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: tne-ga on 22 Aug 2002 20:36 PDT |
thanks alpetron i might try that |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: chiyosdad-ga on 21 May 2004 20:35 PDT |
Hi shadowgate, I was just wondering if you succeeded in factoring this number eventually. I'm trying to factor a bigger number and I'd like to test my programs on this number once I implement them. This was 2 years ago so I don't know if you still check this email... but if you (or anyone else) have any comments to share about your successes (or failures) that would be helpful. Thanks. |
Subject:
Re: factorization wanted
From: shadowgate-ga on 24 May 2004 13:28 PDT |
Yes the number was factored, the factors were: 1771052383785311834993979061208604132871538232335055323 * 716004722254150586483843313158263592817803974805568194113667109128698119199668739510916110374031 The factorization was performed by Kruppa and Leyland using the GNFS. chiyosdad-ga post your number here and any other info you can give about it. However if it is much larger than mine was you need to hope for either a special form to the numebr or that it as a factor with less than 50 digits that might be found by ECM (elliptic curve method). See also: http://www.loria.fr/~zimmerma/records/ecmnet.html |
If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by emailing us at answers-support@google.com with the question ID listed above. Thank you. |
Search Google Answers for |
Google Home - Answers FAQ - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy |