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minature circuits
Category: Science Asked by: axil221-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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03 Mar 2005 05:12 PST
Expires: 02 Apr 2005 05:12 PST Question ID: 483947 |
I would like to buy a minature AM transmitter,the size of a five pence piece if possible.Using perhaps a small mercury cell (rechargable)for its power supply.The range of the transmitter need only be two hundred meters.The project is part of a alarm system.Please indicate any special sources who could supply such a device. |
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Re: minature circuits
From: guzzi-ga on 03 Mar 2005 15:30 PST |
AM does not define the frequency, though I would guess you are referring to ?medium wave? which is imprecisely termed the ?AM band? -- in the region of a megahertz. Devices are very simple but you would still need an aerial of several feet to get much out of it. For that reason (and a bunch of others) most miniature transmitters are now VHF (or higher frequency), also inaccurately termed the ?FM band?. So before trying to hunt them down, are you committed to AM? Best |
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Re: minature circuits
From: axil221-ga on 04 Mar 2005 13:08 PST |
Your comments are very interesting.VHF transmitters would be suitable.Please advise? |
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Re: minature circuits
From: guzzi-ga on 04 Mar 2005 16:57 PST |
OK, VHF or UHF. I take it you are UK based (ref to 5 pence piece). VHF can often be picked up on a standard VHF radio. Though sometimes available are not legal for usage in the UK. Not that this is necessarily a major consideration because there are holes in the usage where you wouldn?t upset anyone. UHF systems are legal but require a special receiver for the frequency. Both transmitter and receiver can be built quite cheaply from modules but require expertise. With brief search I didn?t find micro-miniature transmitters but no reason why they shouldn?t be available. Suggest you search...... {?micro-miniature? VHF transmitter} .........and variations on the theme. You don?t say what kind of signal you want to transmit. Data is easier than audio. Mercury cells BTW are not rechargeable and you will also find that transmitters demand at least a couple of volts. What thoughts? Best |
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Re: minature circuits
From: axil221-ga on 05 Mar 2005 06:02 PST |
I found these,digital transmitters/receiver,,http://www.finchdata.biz/qradio/modules.asp,under 816mhz .they should be straight forward to set up I think.For my alarm I require the digital output to set off a alarm.At first they require a digital input ,perhaps digital tone burst generator,this of course would have to be miniture.To receive the output I am not sure,please advise.The transmitter is the difficult part since it has to be minature..The volts I can pick up somewhere as power supply.The following are details FM 868 MHz T6/R6 Transmitter/Receiver Modules Ref: 108-163 Miniature SIL package , Fully shielded, Data rates up to 64Kbits/s , Range up to 200 meters, Single supply voltage, Industry pin compatible Transmitter :- Temp range -20C +55C European versions; 868.4 MHz for 10% duty cycle band 869.85 MHz for 100% duty cycle band American version; 915.0 MHz Bandwidth efficient PLL technology Receiver Single conversion FM superhetrodyne using RF SAW and ceramic IF filtering at 10.7 MHz (image rejection 60dB) Analogue, digital outputs Signal strength output (RSSI) Incorporates AGC resulting in improved dynamic range Dynamic range better than 120dB Single 5V supply The T6 AND R6 miniature UHF radio modules enable the implementation of a reliable telemetry link at data rates of up to 64 kbits/s. The T6 is based on a classical phase lock loop using a crystal reference oscillator. This results in an accurately controlled RF output in the frequency domain. A significant advantage of this is that narrow filtering can then be used in the receiver, which results in high interference immunity. In addition, the modules are fitted with an on-board voltage regulator which enhances performance from improved supply filtering and also ensures a constant RF output level. The R6 is based on the single conversion superhet principle utilising a crystal based phase lock loop for accurate generation of the local oscillator. This allows use of high Q bandpass filters resulting in good adjacent channel selectivity and high interference immunity. The T6 and R6 modules will suit one-to-one and multi-node wireless links in applications including building and car security, remote industrial process monitoring and computer networking. Because of its small size and low power requirements, these modules are ideal for use in portable battery powered wireless applications. These modules may be used within areas of high interference, or 'radio traffic'. Due to the design, they provide a highly reliable radio link. Dleivery B see below for prices |
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Re: minature circuits
From: guzzi-ga on 05 Mar 2005 17:32 PST |
Eventually found the item on :- http://www.finchdata.biz/cgi-bin/sh002323.pl?ACTINIC_REFERRER=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2efinchdata%2ebiz%2facatalog%2fsearch%2ehtml&REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2efinchdata%2ebiz%2facatalog%2fcatalogbody%2ehtml&WD=868%20t6%20modules%20transmitter%20receiver%20mhz%20fm%20r6&SHOP=%20&PREVQUERY=SS%3dFM%2b868%2bMHz%2bT6%252FR6%2bTransmitter%252FReceiver%2bModules%2b%26ACTION%3dGo%2521%26PR%3d%2d1%26TB%3dA%26SHOP% 3d%20&PN=868MHz%2ehtml%23a108_2d163#a108_2d163 You?ll also find quite a number of similar from :- http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/home/homepage.jsp I presume you downloaded the pdf. Aerial notes are only advisory because you really need some way of detecting how efficiently they are matched. Loops are quite simple but you?d still have to experiment. Whips are easiest and require least ?frigging?. Don?t try the helical because these are very critical. Perhaps you should consider purchase of an aerial book to get a handle on things. Depending on what sort of data you want to convey, if very simple, there should be much more miniature devices to be had. Just need a bit of hunting. So how much data and what rate do you intend? Best |
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Re: minature circuits
From: axil221-ga on 08 Mar 2005 12:45 PST |
As per 6.02 PST,my reply describes a simple tone generator input,combined with a triggered output.Since the circuit I hope to build is a alarm circuit only a simplified input output is required from transmitter/receiver.Please advise. |
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Re: minature circuits
From: axil221-ga on 08 Mar 2005 13:12 PST |
Very interesting transmitter at following link,what do you think the range could be,also what receiver should be used,http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/searchPage2.jsp?x=38&OrgTT=transmitter&Nty=1&N=1000026+401&=gensearch&y=6&No=0&Ntt=transmitter&Ntk=gensearch&comSearch=true |
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Re: minature circuits
From: guzzi-ga on 08 Mar 2005 15:08 PST |
I?ll try to get back to you tomorrow if that?s OK. Bit pushed for time tonight and last couple of days. Best |
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Re: minature circuits
From: guzzi-ga on 09 Mar 2005 16:23 PST |
Sorry for the delay. Ah, no these are ultrasonic transducers. You want radio don?t you? Keep searching CPC and I can check out what you find. If you can?t find specifically what you want I could suggest CPC parts. Don?t want to make it too easy for you :-) You are in UK aren?t you? CPC are pretty good but you need an account before you can buy from them. Dead easy to set up and they?ll send you a catalogue which is much more convenient for browsing on the toilet. Actually I highly recommend that you do this because one often learns much more from comprehensive catalogues than from technical books. I shall keep a watch. Best |
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Re: minature circuits
From: axil221-ga on 16 Mar 2005 12:34 PST |
Please comment on these transmitters,as reguard UK law ect,they seem good value,as I say all I want to transmit is a alarm tone.http://www.bullnet.co.uk/shops/test/bugkits.htm#QX900-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QX900 NBFM signalling/tracklng transmitter The QX900 is a crystal controlled NBFM signalling/tracking transmitter which will find many uses in alarms, warning devices and location of missing items. It generates and transmits a stream of audio pulses whose tone and repetition rate are both variable from low to high and short to long with two miniature on board controls. ft can be fitted to vehicles or other packages whose location can then be identified with a receiver. If a directional receiver is used this can actually provide a bearing on the signal. It can be used as a wireless alarm system if linked to some form of contact and with the ability of varying the audio tones, several can be put on the same channel and monitoring with a single receiver can identify which transmitter has been triggered. Connected to a mercury tilt switch it can remotely signal if something has been moved. In fact the list is endless. The 0X900 board measures 2Omm x 67mm and the unit operates from a 9V supply. Current drain is around 10mA which will give 50 hours continuous transmission from a Duracell MN1 604. The output power of I0mW is sufficient for a range of 1000 metres. Operating frequency 180,000MHz. Quantity Item Description Price: Cart QX900 SIGNALLING/TRACKING TRANSMITTER 55.36 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TKX9OO Wideband signalling/tracking transmitter The TKX9OO is the broadband version of the QX900 signalling/tracking transmitter described elsewhere in this catalogue. It's output signal is fully tuneable from 100-120MHz making it suitable for use on normal VHF FM or airband receivers. The audio bleeping signal is fully adjustable with miniature on-board controls in bleep length and pitch making it ideal for all forms of signalling or alarm use. ft operates from a 9V supply and has powerful 100mW output providing a range of 3000 metres. Current drain is around 50mA so a continuous transmission time of about 10 hours can be expected from a Duracell MN1 604. Board size 25mm x 63mm. Quantity Item Description Price: Cart TKX900 WIDE BAND SIGNALLING/TRACKING TR 35.34 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Re: minature circuits
From: axil221-ga on 16 Mar 2005 13:01 PST |
I am still looking for minature transmiters,as far as I can see CPC only do the printed circuit type similar to the type stated earlier in comments,if you know different please let me know.Since I am planinig on buying a few.FFor alarms,therefore only a basic input tone ignal,its all getting very interesting now. |
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Re: minature circuits
From: guzzi-ga on 16 Mar 2005 17:03 PST |
No, there *are* other transmitter / receivers available from CPC. Keyfobs and very cheap 418/433 MHz AM transmitter module. Searching catalogues on the web is very poor in comparison with having the catalogue in hand. Do sign up for an account with CPC, they?ll send you a catalogue and it?ll answers many of your queries. Best |
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Re: minature circuits
From: axil221-ga on 23 Mar 2005 06:05 PST |
Thanks,I am in process of geting a cpc catalogue,good advice. |
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