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Capturing NTSC video with a PAL mini DV
Category: Science > Technology Asked by: lotanam-ga List Price: $15.00 |
Posted:
03 Mar 2005 12:39 PST
Expires: 02 Apr 2005 12:39 PST Question ID: 484188 |
I live in Israel and have a Sony PAL mini DV camera (DCR-TRV22E). I use it to capture video from my Playstation2 console, using a RCA connection. I can only capture video from PAL games this way, but not from NTSC games. If I try connecting my mini DV to my Playstation 2 console while it is running a NTSC game, all I get is a blue screen on my mini DV (as it does whenever I connect anything with a NTSC signal to it). I also can't capture videos from my Xbox and GameCube consoles, since they are both NTSC systems. Is there any sort of device/cable/booster that I can use to capture NTSC video using my PAL mini DV? Where can I find it? I prefer something that I can find at any local electronics shop or can order online from a store that ships to Israel. |
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Re: Capturing NTSC video with a PAL mini DV
From: deeptimer-ga on 10 Mar 2005 07:16 PST |
Hello there Iotanam, The device you seek is called a "standards converter." Professionl versions can cost many thousands of dollars. But there are comsumer ones that might be in your price range, albeit with compromised quality. Here's one such, at $USD 179: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=REG&O=productlist&sku=244774 ...but at that price you will see some nasty conversion artifacts in your PAL output from this gizmo for sure. The basic issue is that PAL samples an image 50 times per second (two fields per frame, the framerate being 25 frames per second; whereas NTSC samples the image at 59.94 fields per second (i.e., 29.97 frames per second). Motion in your image that PAL captures into its signal information occurs at times (and thus at different places in the image, for moving objects) different than for NTSC. The job of a standards converter is to perform the trick of guessing what the NTSC image might have looked like during the times the PAL signal was capturing some other part of the image. This is hard to do well, for many reasons, and good convertors are very expensive for that reason. If you are taping these signals to ultimately capture them into a computer, say as an AVI or MPEG stream, you might preserve better quality by useing an NTSC video capture card (or a multistandard one NTSC/PAL) in your PC, vs. taping and converting the signal. |
Subject:
Re: Capturing NTSC video with a PAL mini DV
From: deeptimer-ga on 10 Mar 2005 07:29 PST |
Also, don't forget that if your devices offer S-video in/out, that signal format is cleaner than either NTSC or PAL, and is better for PC capture too. As an aside, you may know that PAL is short for "Phase Alternate Line," referring to a trick and improvement (over NTSC) in how the color is encoded. It eliminated the need for a "Hue" knob on PAL TV sets. NTSC officially refers to the "National Television Standards Committee" that was formed to figure out how to shoehorn color information into the then-existing black-and-white-only TV system in the USA (in the '50s). But professionals joke that because NTSC's spec. demanded a hue knob, it really means "Never Twice Same Color." Around that time, the rooskies (always needing to do their own thing) invented a competing color encoding system called "NIR"; the joke was that this stood for "Not Intentionally Red." PAL came along later, thus is refered to as "Peace At Last." |
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