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Subject:
Matching output of ariel to a earth connection
Category: Computers Asked by: axil221-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
04 Mar 2005 13:03 PST
Expires: 31 Mar 2005 12:39 PST Question ID: 484809 |
Please advise on the feasability of using the incomming earth on my desktop as a ariel.Cards these day operate at 850mhz.How should I go about impedance matching the ariel output of the card to earth input.The reason I want to use earth as an ariel,as follows,my project involves using my PC as a survielance monitor enclosed in a solid case.Using the earth would be very beneficial.Please advise. |
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Re: Matching output of ariel to a earth connection
From: guzzi-ga on 04 Mar 2005 16:54 PST |
Could you clarify your question? ?Cards these day operate at 850mhz?. What cards are you referring to? Whilst any conductor can theoretically be employed as a radiator, there is no reasonable way to connect a RF output to an earth lead for incorporation as an aerial. Impedance matching, even extremely badly, is simply impossible. Best |
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Re: Matching output of ariel to a earth connection
From: axil221-ga on 05 Mar 2005 04:03 PST |
To clarify,thankyou for answer,the card I am talking about is the Belkin 802.11g Wireless (Wi-Fi) Desktop Network Card.My idea would be to use existing ariel inside the machine and see if I can receive a signal.Or somehow make a more efficient ariel and use that inside the machine and see if that works.Please advise. |
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Re: Matching output of ariel to a earth connection
From: axil221-ga on 05 Mar 2005 06:09 PST |
I assume using the provided ariel from the card in the machine would not work.Therefore perhaps modifing the machine in such a way as to accommodate a ariel will work.The machine has platic front,with metal chasis behind,,maybe putting some ariel between these two will work.Please advise. |
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Re: Matching output of ariel to a earth connection
From: guzzi-ga on 05 Mar 2005 17:01 PST |
I think you?ll find that 802.11G is 2.4 GHz. Very tricky. http://www.proav.de/index.html?http&&&www.proav.de/data/wi-fi.html I don?t know which card you intend using. PCI? Unfortunately, any modification to the aerial or the feeder will severely worsen the output. Aerials are deceptively simple but the design is critical to the equipment which it is coupled to. If it is designed to stick out the back, then that?s how it?s got to be. It is possible to remove the aerial and relocate it somewhere else, even inside the case if there is no metal screen in the way but it?s a pretty specialist area of knowledge. Without a field strength meter and a good dose of theory, you couldn?t know how well it was working or even how to modify it to get best results. At worst, the output would fry. What further thoughts? Best |
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Re: Matching output of ariel to a earth connection
From: axil221-ga on 06 Mar 2005 12:28 PST |
That does it,I beleive yo when you say messing with mhz ariel is next to impossible,thankyou. |
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Re: Matching output of ariel to a earth connection
From: deeptimer-ga on 10 Mar 2005 08:04 PST |
Maybe your red herring is thinking that you must use the earth as an antenna? Is your "solid case" a conducting material (e.g., metal), or a dilectric (e.g., plastic or fiberglass)? Are you burying this case in the soil, or does it remain exposed to the air? Do you simply need to make your case watertight, for example, in a NEMA enclosure? In such cases you could still deploy a wi-fi card (yes that's 2.4 GHz, not 850MHz), but via the trick of having an externally mounted 2.4 GHz wi-fi antenna, such as a small patch antenna, that is coaxially coupled to your card (get a card with an external RF connector); or simply passively reradiates the signal within the box by coupling it (via coax through the box wall) to a second wi-fi antenna therein. I have not idea what range or power level, or directionality of signal you need, so these ideas should be swallowed with a grain of salt. |
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