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pronounciation of "Erdos"
Category: Science > Math Asked by: bugbear-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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07 Mar 2005 10:05 PST
Expires: 06 Apr 2005 11:05 PDT Question ID: 486197 |
The web disagrees: ://www.google.com/search?q=erdos+pronounced Which is it? |
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Re: pronounciation of "Erdos"
Answered By: czh-ga on 07 Mar 2005 14:36 PST Rated: |
Hello bugbear-ga, With the assistance of my colleague, THX1138, I?m confident that I have a complete answer for you on the proper pronunciation for ?Erdos?, the famous Hungarian mathematician. The Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary provides an audio file so you can hear the name for yourself. While searching for Hungarian pronunciation guides I came across a selection of audio files that will give you a good exposure to the sound of Hungarian. I?ve also included some additional resources about the Hungarian alphabet, language and pronunciation guides. My search also revealed that there are more and more audio resources available on the Web (like the dictionary) that might be worth using in future research. Please don?t hesitate to ask for clarification if any of this is confusing. All the best. ~ czh ~ ===================== PRONUNCIATION ? ERDOS ===================== http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=erdos Merriam-Webster - Erdos =================================== HUGARIAN LANGUAGE AND PRONUNCIATION =================================== http://www.hungarotips.com/hungarian/b/ABC.html http://www.hungarotips.com/hungarian/b/abc.wav http://www.hungarotips.com/hungarian/b/pract1.wav Hungarian Alphabet (audio) ------------------------------------------------- http://www.single-serving.com/Hungarian/audio.php Hungarian Audio http://www.single-serving.com/Hungarian/GP/alph/Hun-alph.mp3 Hungarian Alphabet ------------------------------------------------- http://www.magyarora.com/english/shortaudio.html Magyaróra! ***** Hungarian lessons with pronunciation audios. ------------------------------------------------- http://208.234.11.183/hpt/hungarian_pronunciation.shtml Hungarian Pronunciation Tutor ------------------------------------------------- http://www.math.nyu.edu/~wendlc/pronunciation/Hungarian.html Hungarian Pronunciation Guide ------------------------------------------------- http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1209 Basic Hungarian for chess fans ------------------------------------------------- http://www.phantomranch.net/folkdanc/alphabet/hungarian.htm Hungarian Pronunciation Guide http://www.cusd.claremont.edu/~tkroll/EastEur/hun-pron.html HUNGARIAN PRONUNCIATION =============================== GENERAL PRONUNCIATION RESOURCES =============================== http://www.m-w.com/ Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary ***** You can listen for the correct pronunciation of dictionary entries. ------------------------------------------------- http://names.voa.gov/DailyAction.cfm http://names.voa.gov/ Voice of America -- Pronunciation Guide ***** You can search by a variety of parameters. If you want to hear the pronunciation of some Hungarian names that have been in the news choose Hungary and List Lookup. =============== SEARCH STRATEGY =============== hungarian pronunciation hungarian audio pronunciation | |
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Re: pronounciation of "Erdos"
From: pinkfreud-ga on 07 Mar 2005 10:17 PST |
Here's a newsgroup post that seems to be authoritative, if one accepts the writer's claim to have spoken with Erdos himself on the matter: "Here is the correct pronunciation as taught me by Erdos himself. After writing it down, I verified it with another Hungarian mathematician who has been a close friend of Paul's for more decades than she would admit. Er: similar to the English word 'air' but the 'r' is rolled briefly. It is hard for English speakers like me to roll the 'r' without creating a pseudo-syllable between this one and the next; however this is essential. dos: (there is a long Hungarian umlaut on the 'o', in TeX: \H) the sound is similar to the English 'ersh' though not exactly. The long accent makes the 'er' fairly long. The accent is on the first syllable. His first name is actually Pal (accent on the 'a') pronounced 'Pahl', but practically everyone calls him 'Paul' with the English pronunciation." http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/109eb2e8f97d66df?dmode=source |
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Re: pronounciation of "Erdos"
From: shockandawe-ga on 07 Mar 2005 10:39 PST |
According to the limerick, it rhymes with "Kurdish." A conjecture both deep and profound Is whether a circle is round. In a paper of Erdos Written in Kurdish A counterexample is found |
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Re: pronounciation of "Erdos"
From: czh-ga on 07 Mar 2005 11:18 PST |
Hello bugbear-ga, I?m a native Hungarian speaker and I?m not surprised about the confusion on how to pronounce Erd?s Pál?s name. It?s a difficult language with and alphabet that?s not easy for non-native speakers to pronounce. I have fun asking friends to wrap their tongues around ?gyönyör??. I?ve found some resources that include audio files to help you grasp what I mean. I?m posting this as a comment because I haven?t been able to find an audio file to pronounce Erd?s Pál for you. Enjoy! ~ czh ~ http://www.hungarotips.com/hungarian/b/ABC.html http://www.hungarotips.com/hungarian/b/abc.wav http://www.hungarotips.com/hungarian/b/pract1.wav Hungarian Alphabet (audio) http://208.234.11.183/hpt/hungarian_pronunciation.shtml Hungarian Pronunciation Tutor http://www.math.nyu.edu/~wendlc/pronunciation/Hungarian.html Hungarian http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1209 Basic Hungarian for chess fans http://www.phantomranch.net/folkdanc/alphabet/hungarian.htm Hungarian Pronunciation Guide http://www.cusd.claremont.edu/~tkroll/EastEur/hun-pron.html HUNGARIAN PRONUNCIATION |
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Re: pronounciation of "Erdos"
From: thx1138-ga on 07 Mar 2005 11:47 PST |
By clicking on the red speaker on the website below, you can hear a pronunciation of Erdos. Perhaps czh-ga can answer your question by stating if it is the correct pronunciation or not. http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=erdos Your thoughts czh-ga? Very best regards THX1138 |
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Re: pronounciation of "Erdos"
From: pafalafa-ga on 07 Mar 2005 11:52 PST |
No one know how to pronounce Van Gogh either! |
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Re: pronounciation of "Erdos"
From: czh-ga on 07 Mar 2005 11:57 PST |
Hi thx1138-ga, "Your thoughts czh-ga?" Sounds good to me. Nice find! All the best. ~ czh ~ |
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