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Subject: Document creation beyond HTML.
Category: Computers > Graphics
Asked by: mk1138-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 09 Mar 2005 19:02 PST
Expires: 08 Apr 2005 20:02 PDT
Question ID: 490712
I am an independent software developer. I work mostly in Windows.

I want to create high quality print-ready documents using layout
and typography not possible with HTML. These will be semi-formal,
but progressive, technical documents with relatively many nontext
elements. A few will be crisp, clean business documents.

Some form of HTML output would be welcome, but is not required.

These links are an example of acceptable HTML output for the given PDF.

  http://media.studio.adobe.com/tips/media/en/idsn3bridge/pdfs/idsn3bridge.pdf
  http://studio.adobe.com/us/tips/tip.jsp?p=1&xml=idsn3bridge&id=426

I am not looking for an HTML-to-PDF solution. Read the above again carefully.

The many apparent choices confuse me, especially when most come from a single
company. Eg. InCopy, InDesign, PageMaker, FrameMaker, Acrobat... Quark...

I use Word+StyleWriter for editing and proofing. I will continue to use them.
As such, dynamic embedding of external text/xml files would be most helpful.
 
I will do my own research if you point me to some URLs, but insider insight
would be most helpful. I have already tried a few of the above products.

Clarification of Question by mk1138-ga on 10 Mar 2005 13:01 PST
Google Answers confuses me..

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Clarification of Question by mk1138-ga on 13 Mar 2005 10:15 PST
Since I cannot see the other two comments, I may have to cancel this question.

It will be interesting to see how it goes on EE.
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Subject: Re: Document creation beyond HTML.
From: willcodeforfood-ga on 10 Mar 2005 10:53 PST
 
I'm not sure I unserstand exactly what you are trying to accomplish,
but if I understand corerctly, then the following approach might work
for you.

RTF, like PDF is a text-based, document formatting and markup
specification.  With RTF, however, you can edit text or insert new
text in the doument without invalidating the document's internal
structure.  PDF requires byte offsets be stored within its internal
structure so modifying the document after creation invalidate these
offsets and makes the document unreadable by the Adobe PDF viewer.

To see what I mean about editing RTF, open Word and type some text
into a document and then save it as RTF.  Then open the RTF document
in Notepad and edit the text you entered.  Reopen the document in Word
and you will see the changes that you made.

To approach your problem.  Put markers in your documents where you
need to place each element, like <# CompanyName #> to create an RTF
template document.  Then write a simple program that can fetch data
from your database, XML files, and/or text files and merge it all into
the RTF template (essentially a search and replace task).  With
further experimentation, you'll find you can even dynamically embed
images into your documents, create tables and more.  Some of this
(such as working with images) can be accomplished by creating small
RTF documents, opening them and removing portions into separate text
files.  These text files are then data sources for the merge process. 
Naturally you'll want the template to be as close to final as possible
before performing the merge step.

If your documents are very consistent but each customized, such as
happens during a mail-merge operation, you'll find this approach
simple and effective.  If you absolutely must have the final output in
PDF, then use a converter tool like [
http://www.eprintdriver.com/to_pdf/RTF-to-PDF-ex.html ] to do a final
pass and convert the RTF to PDF.

Should you need to kick these documents up a notch, as Emeril might
say, other easily found software tools can be used to polish the PDF
output further.  This would be useful if you wanted to merge multiple
files, add thumbnails, incorporate security, embed word-search indexes
or include other high-end PDF features with the documents.

Good luck.
Subject: Re: Document creation beyond HTML.
From: owain-ga on 11 Mar 2005 12:10 PST
 
You could look at various TeX based systems. Because TeX works on
structured markup of documents, it produces very clean HTML. It's
especially strong for scientific and mathematical typography.

Owain

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