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Subject: Running a stop sign on private property
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: nautico-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 10 Mar 2005 14:11 PST
Expires: 11 Mar 2005 03:08 PST
Question ID: 491921
Can one be cited by a police officer for rolling through a stop sign
posted on private property (e.g., shopping mall parking lots)?

A search on "stop signs on private property" returns numerous hits,
but none appears to be authoritative on this question. Have any states
enacted laws that make such stop signs as legally operative as they
are on public roads?

Clarification of Question by nautico-ga on 11 Mar 2005 03:08 PST
Thanks, Mark, I tend to agree with you that, if CA doesn't include
running a stop sign in its private property offenses, FL probably
doesn't either.
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Subject: Re: Running a stop sign on private property
From: markj-ga on 10 Mar 2005 14:31 PST
 
nautico  --

Here's an excerpt from a section of the California Motor Vehicle law
that bears on your question, followed by a link to the complete
section:

'21107.8.   (a) Any city or county may, by ordinance or resolution,
find and declare that there are privately owned and maintained
offstreet parking facilities as described in the ordinance or
resolution within the city or county that are generally held open for
use of the public for purposes of vehicular parking. Upon enactment by
a city or county of the ordinance or resolution, Sections 22350
[appropriate speed], 23103 [reckless driving], and 23109 [racing] and
the provisions of Division 16.5 (commencing with Section 38000)
[off-road vehicles] shall apply to privately owned and maintained
offstreet parking facilities, except as provided in subdivision (b).

"(b) Notwithstanding the provisions of subdivision (a), no ordinance
or resolution enacted thereunder shall apply to any offstreet parking
facility described therein unless the owner or operator has caused to
be posted in a conspicuous place at each entrance to that offstreet
parking facility a notice not less than 17 by 22 inches in size with
lettering not less than one inch in height, to the effect that the
offstreet parking facility is subject to public traffic regulations
and control. "


Note that stop signs on private property are not included in the
enforceable offenses in California.   I am tempted to suggest that if
California doesn't have such a regulation, no state does, but I really
have no basis to make that claim.
Subject: Re: Running a stop sign on private property
From: markj-ga on 10 Mar 2005 14:33 PST
 
Whoops.  I promised to provide a link to the section. Here it is:

California Department of Motor Vehicles: Private Parking Facilities
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21107_8.htm
Subject: Re: Running a stop sign on private property
From: theother420-ga on 10 Mar 2005 15:07 PST
 
To better answer your question I need to know what sate and city. The
reason is that every state and City has different laws pertaining to
this.

In most states laws does not allow Law enforcement to enforce privet
property violations.

But they allow for some violation such as parking in a handicap spot.

Let me know what city and state and ill look it up for you.




?Leave the big words and grammar out of this and just answer the question?

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