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Subject:
"The Ends Justify the Means"
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion Asked by: brew1940-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
12 Mar 2005 06:54 PST
Expires: 11 Apr 2005 07:54 PDT Question ID: 493174 |
Is there a consensus in the philosophical/ethical community as to when, if ever, "the ends justify the means?" |
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Re: "The Ends Justify the Means"
From: myoarin-ga on 12 Mar 2005 10:43 PST |
Cheers/Skaal/Prost Brew1940-ga, This phrase seems to be an attitude favored by politiicians - and their "philosopher" Michiavelli (Italy, 1469-1527 "The Prince"), and it does have a certain application to politics as "the art of the possible," and wars are the handiest example. That's the real world, and we all practice this to some extent: "white lies". Emmmanuel Kant, the Germany philosopher (1724-1804), certainly did not accept this premisis, and I don't think many of his colleagues do. It gets down to what the "means" are: harmless "while lies" maybe okay, because one's wife won't be any happier if you tell what you really think of her new dress/hair color), or if one prevericates to protect someone whom one believes is being unjustifiably accused or maligned - but it could be true. In the usually or somewhat theoretical world of philosophy and ethics, there is not much room for this statement, so I think the consensus there goes against it. I hope a researcher can enlighten us both. Myoarin |
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Re: "The Ends Justify the Means"
From: xcarlx-ga on 13 Mar 2005 13:28 PST |
It's a standard entry-level debate in philosophy, between Kantianism and Utilitarianism. Kantianism is based on following rules and Utilitarianism is based on the ends justifying the means. There is a lot more to it, but that's the general point of both. There are nearly endless sources available that review this topic: ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=utilitarianism+kantianism+site%3A.edu The only majority consensus is that neither theory is perfect, otherwise we would not bother to study philosophy. They aren't the only two ways of looking at it either, but they address one of the simplest ethical questions and show why the extreme in either direction is hard to justify. |
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