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Subject: Responsibility and ignorance
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: archae0pteryx-ga
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Posted: 12 Mar 2005 15:35 PST
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Question ID: 493475
I found these lines in a notebook I was about to throw away:

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With knowledge comes reponsibility.

Yes, and without knowledge comes the responsiblity of ignorance.  If
you don't know, you should shut up.  And if you do know, you should be
careful what you say and how you say it.

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These were followed by a quote attributed to Bohr:  "You should never
talk more clearly than you think."

My question:  is the remark about the responsibility of ignorance a
known quotation by somebody?  Who said that?  Did I?  I don't know if
I copied it from somewhere or it came out of my own head.  Did I write
it down because I thought of it or because I agreed with someone else's
thought?  If it was mine, I can use it freely, but if it was someone
else's, I should credit it.  It's not like me to copy down quotes
without credit (e.g., the Bohr remark), but stranger things have
happened.

Thank you,
Archae0pteryx
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Subject: Re: Responsibility and ignorance
From: myoarin-ga on 12 Mar 2005 19:33 PST
 
Hi Tryx,
sounds like my kind of note taking in college:  only made sense later
if I could remember what happened.
Could your note have been a quotation of what the Prof or whoever said?
I like the one by Bohr, though it is hard to think that one could talk
more clearly than one could think.  Politicians seem to come pretty
close, but then they're trained or experienced "say nothing experts".
Best, Myoarin
Subject: Re: Responsibility and ignorance
From: archae0pteryx-ga on 12 Mar 2005 20:14 PST
 
Thanks, Myoarin, good guess, but not a college notebook.  College is
far, far behind me, but I am never without a notebook.  I do a lot of
jottings of story and article ideas, thoughts-for-thought's sake,
curious questions (some of which wind up here), and all kinds of other
stuff.  And when I hear something or read something that I take down,
I usually record the source and, if pertinent, the date.  Otherwise
the comments are usually my own.  This, as it happens, sounds like
something I might say, but not the way I'd say it, making me think
that I copied it from somewhere--maybe even a waiting-room magazine or
a line in a movie.

The note about Bohr is unverified.  I have certainly heard people
whose clarity of expression made the fuzzy illogic of their thinking
unmistakably obvious to anyone who was listening well.

Tryx
Subject: Re: Responsibility and ignorance
From: myoarin-ga on 13 Mar 2005 06:21 PST
 
Tryx,
And you throw away such notebooks?!  You must be either absolutely
desperate for space - or for something to burn.  Since you keep notes
all the time, you probably are pretty conscientious about noting the
source of such a statement (eg, Bohr's, Oh, you said that too), so I
would give you credit for have developed the statement about
ignorance.  But what are we commentors all going to do if we follow
it?!
Or  ;-) ...  is that what you are suggestiong?
Reminds me of a cartoon 45+ years ago,  "The Girls" (middle-aged
ones), in which one of them remarks:
"How do I know what I think until I have heard what I have to say?"

UNfortunately, there is a great big kernel of truth in that:  how
often have I discovered the answer to something after I started to
describe the problem to someone else!
Sloppy thinking  - not being able to formulate the problem in my own
mind without using my mouth.  It runs in the family  (if not
universal): my aunt told me that she had gone to my grandfather for
help, and told him all about the matter, and then thanked him for his
helping in solving it, to which he replied:  "I didn't say anything. 
You came up with the solution yourself."

To get back to the question:  Sometimes we are not as ignorant as we
assume, just haven't got our thoughts and the knowledge we do have
properly sorted.
(But you've got to me credit for that, if you use it!  ;-D  Happy Sunday.
Myoarin

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