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Q: Cool Question! (not really difficult) ( Answered 4 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
Subject: Cool Question! (not really difficult)
Category: Computers > Programming
Asked by: bhutan-ga
List Price: $101.01
Posted: 19 Mar 2005 12:52 PST
Expires: 18 Apr 2005 13:52 PDT
Question ID: 497283
I would like to do some Computer training in the Toronto area (in Canada)
in the following core technology: C#  .net and  VB6 .net.

I would like a Google researcher to come up some options with the following 
1. training will be "hands on"  with an instructor in a classroom
environment. (It does not have to be one on one. I am ok with a
reasonable size class)

2. The course will lead me to getting the necessary Microsoft  

3. Related technologies such as Web development , JAVA scripting ,HTML
   SQL .net should also  be included in the course.

4. The training course would include work type assignments and ideally
   work assignments for real companies.

5. The training organisation would be pro-active in locating me employment
   opportunities in the relevent technologies. ( i do not expect them to 
   guarantee me a job. However they should be able to get me interviews 
   with organisations requiring the above mentioned skills.)

6. In terms of training I am flexible when it could be done. (i.e. daytime,   
   evening , weekends). Access to an instructor should however be 20+ hours 
   per week. I would also expect flexible access to the Classroom to follow up 
   and /or complete assignments.

7. I would be looking at a total lapsed time of 3 to 6 months.

Please note I AM NOT interested in any of the following:
 -  Boot Camp type courses 
 -  'Distance Learning' (i.e. where the training organisation gives you the CD 
    and tells you to get on with it)
 -  Prolonged degree type programs.
 4 or 5 options that fit the above criteria would be ideal. I will
need a brief synopsis of what the training organisation offers and of
course the relevant contact information.

Many Thanks

Clarification of Question by bhutan-ga on 21 Mar 2005 10:56 PST

Any more information on this?. Considering the price I am offering I
am surprised that this information should be so difficult to come by?



Clarification of Question by bhutan-ga on 12 Apr 2005 06:25 PDT
With only six days to go before this question expires , I would still be very 
interested to get an answer to my question. 3 or 4 examples which
adhere to my criteria would suffice.

Many Thanks
Subject: Re: Cool Question! (not really difficult)
Answered By: jbf777-ga on 12 Apr 2005 08:52 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
Hello -

Thank you for your question.  Should you need any additional
information, please don't hesitate to ask.  Thank you.

Microsoft has outlined specific courses that you should take in order
to prepare you for its exams in .NET technologies certification.  It
has a set curriculum, taught by certified partners, composed of 1-5
day mini-courses.  These partners are the ONLY ones that offer
specific coursework for *Microsoft* .NET certification (as opposed to
certification from other entities, such as a college).

There are two levels of certification: Microsoft Certified Application
Developmer (MCAD) and Microsoft Certified Solutions Developer (MCSD). 
MCSD is the more extensive certification.  They're compared here:

  Compare the MCAD Credential to the MCSD Credential

Outlined in the following article are the specific courses and their
associated exams for MCAD:

  MCAD Requirements

And MCSD, respectively:

  MCSD Requirements

There are a handful of companies sanctioned by Microsoft that are in
the Toronto area.  You can use this "Find Training" link to see what
courses are available:

Once you find a course you're interested in, you can scroll down on
the screen following, enter in your location information, and find
who's teaching it in your area.

For example, here's a course called Introduction to C# Programming
with Microsoft .NET:

Scroll down at that link and enter in your location information to
display who is teaching the course in Toronto.  In this case, there's
one company named Destech Consulting.

Of the firms I spoke to, all offer the "hands-on" small-classroom
setting.  Some of the courses are focused on one topic only, so you
might have to take separate courses to get into the other areas of

None of these companies work in the area of employment assistance
(other than the college section of CDI; see below).  However, the
Human Resource Centre of Canada, dedicated to that very task, can
assist you in this area.  They can also potentially assist with
funding if necessary.  Contact:

  Human Resource Centre of Canada

Outside of the above opportunities, I've located CDI, the apparent
leader in the Toronto area for Microsoft certification training on an
"extended-coursework" level.  CDI has two divisions: the corporate
training division, which is in the vein of the training companies you
can find above, and the CDI College.  The CDI College is essentially
the extended version of the corporate training side, offering a
diploma after several months of coursework (in addition to Microsoft
certifications: they will direct you to the appropriate places to take
the exams).  A whopping 92% of graduates become directly employed.  I
checked with several other prominent colleges in the area, and I'm not
finding the same level of emphasis as CDI.  They offer comprehensive
employmenet assistance services as well.

I spoke with Kia Kharrazmi, who is the point of contact for IT admissions:

  Kia Kharrazmi
  For offerings and more information, contact:
  117 Eglinton Avenue, 3rd Floor
  Toronto, ON   M4P 1H4
  Reference Google Answers when calling


HOTT, or Hands On Technology Transfer, also offers certification
tracks in MCAD and MCSD.  While not a "certified trainer," such as
those refered to in the first part of the answer, they are a
"certified partner" of Microsoft.

Information is here:

  MCAD Synopsis here

  MCSD Synopsis here

  Hands On Technology Transfer, Inc.
  14 Fletcher Street
  One Village Square, Suite 8
  Chelmsford, MA 01824

They offer a 100% money-back guarantee if you encounter any of the
following things on the link below (including large classes), and will
also pay for a retake if you don't pass the exam(s):

For employment assistance, contact the Human Resource Centre mentioned above.


The Learning Tree also offers certification in .NET technologies, but
it appears to be their own certification, and not Microsoft:

Read more here:


.NET course schedule is here:


Places like Seneca college have their OWN certification, which is
different from Microsoft, and their courses are not guaranteed to lead
to Microsoft certification (although they may help).

Seneca College
Ask for Computer Specialization when calling

Synopsis here:

Because they're a college, they do have employment assistance.


The following is contact information for the Microsoft-authorized
training companies found through the first part of the answer:

Polar Bear Corporate Education Solutions
130 King Street West
Suitee 2660 - Exchange Tower
M5X 1C7
Nearest City:	Toronto
Local Phone Number: 	1 + 416 + 2217272
Toll Free Phone Number:	1 + 866 + 5257272
TTY Phone Number:
Fax Number:	416 7771931
E-mail Address:
Company Web site:


2 Bloor Street West
22nd Floor
Nearest City:	Toronto
Local Phone Number: 	1 + 416 + 9259929
Toll Free Phone Number:	1 + 888 + 925-9929
TTY Phone Number:
Fax Number:	416 9259220
E-mail Address:
Company Web site:


CDI Education
M2H 3N5
Nearest City:	Toronto
Local Phone Number: 	1 + 416 + 9648688
Toll Free Phone Number:	1 + 888 + 9455226
TTY Phone Number:
Fax Number:	416 4999386
E-mail Address:
Company Web site:


HiTech Institute
2 Bloor Street East,
Suite 2103
M4W 1A8
Nearest City:	Toronto
Local Phone Number: 	1 + 416 + 5131535
Toll Free Phone Number:	1 + 800 + 8164811
TTY Phone Number:
Fax Number:	416 5131536
E-mail Address:
Company Web site:


TGO Consulting Inc.
TGO Consulting
475 Cochrane Drive
Unit 5
L3R 9R5
Nearest City:	Toronto
Local Phone Number: 	1 + 905 + 4706830
Toll Free Phone Number:
TTY Phone Number:
Fax Number:	905 4706832
E-mail Address:
Company Web site:


CDI Education
2 Bloor Street West
8th floor
M4W 3E2
Nearest City:	Toronto
Local Phone Number: 	1 + 416 + 9648688
Toll Free Phone Number:	1 + 888 + 9455226
TTY Phone Number:
Fax Number:	416 9206856
E-mail Address:
Company Web site:


69 Yonge Street
Suite 1200
M5E 1K3
Nearest City:	Toronto
Local Phone Number: 	1 + 416 + 3688455
Toll Free Phone Number:	1 + 866 + 3688455
TTY Phone Number:
Fax Number:	416 3686524
E-mail Address:
Company Web site:

Select search strategy:

Clarification of Answer by jbf777-ga on 12 Apr 2005 09:14 PDT
Select search strategy:
  microsoft certification toronto
bhutan-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars
Overall very good answer. Not the ideal answer I would have wanted but
it looks as though you went to some lengths to get as much relevant
information as possible.
Your links to the Human Resource of Canada is particulary useful.
Many Thanks


Subject: Re: Cool Question! (not really difficult)
From: jbf777-ga on 12 Apr 2005 18:59 PDT
Bhutan -

Glad to help.  All the best in your educational endeavors!


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