Where is published documentation that clearly states if Vice President
Cheney endorsed Ross Perot or Bob Dole in 1996? I will need it to be a
quote from Cheney himself, not someone else's assumption. |
Request for Question Clarification by
pafalafa-ga
on
22 Mar 2005 19:20 PST
Dick Cheney was a foreign policy advisor to the Dole campaign in 1996;
it's almost inconceivable that he would be on record as endorsing
anyone other than Dole.
Thus far, though, I have not come across an explicit endorsement for
Dole either. Is a direct quote from Cheney the only type of
information that works for you?
pafalafa-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
pafalafa-ga
on
22 Mar 2005 19:34 PST
In addition, both Dick Cheney and the Halliburton Company that he
headed made contributions in 1996 to the Bob Dole campaign, to the
RNC, and to the Americans for a Republican Majority -- again, it seems
almost inconceivable that he could have endorsed Perot, and even more
unimaginable that HAD he endorsed Perot, the endorsement would not
have come to light in subsequent years.
Let me know your thoughts on all this.
paf
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Clarification of Question by
graft-ga
on
23 Mar 2005 05:21 PST
Thank you, pafalafa! So far, you look like you have the best answer. I
think if nobody else has anything better before the question expires,
then you should collect the fee. Please give it a little more time,
though.
I barely remember Cheney on MacNeil/Lehrer Newshour back in 1996. I
thought he was in "The Day's News" for approximately 10 seconds. He
was sitting on a table behind a Cheney nameplate and he endorsed
Perot.
It was so long ago that my memory has to be questioned here. It could
just be a big mistaken thought I had. That is why I'm hunting for a
quote.
Internet databases did not exist at this time, so I'm not confident
that the current one would have such a small story that would have
been insignificant at the time when Cheney said he wanted to stay
retired from politics. I'm still looking for a printed volume of the
MacNeil/Lehrer Newshour Report and Index for 1996. Nexis is supposed
to have full hour verbatim transcripts of the show. Maybe I'll get
help there. I'm also going to find a copy of the Almanac of American
Politics that covers this time period. If I can't find the quote
before this question expires, then you can have the fee. If I find the
quote, then you can have it anyway, because your information helps me
very much.
Maybe Cheney isn't Reform Party, but, IMHO, he certainly knows how to
sound like he is. Perot got nearly 1/3 of Wyoming's vote in '92, so I
think Cheney is well versed in our platform. I also heard that Cheney
was once on the Board of Directors for EDS, the company founded by
Perot. If that is true, Cheney might have seriously considered Perot.
I am also curious how the American Reform Party website had a claim on
it's first page, "Reform Party Poised to be Number One!" That's crazy,
unless Cheney voted for Perot.
If we can find a quote, then we might be able to ask how Democrats can
refuse to debate the Reform Party if Clinton debated Perot and if
Cheney voted for Perot. This answer might be the Reform Party's ticket
into the 2008 Presidential Debates. It is worth a try, at least.
In absence of a direct quote, I will accept your answer as the authority.
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Request for Question Clarification by
pafalafa-ga
on
23 Mar 2005 06:00 PST
Thanks for the feedback...it will interesting to see what others can
come up with on this.
By the way, I checked the "Newshour" transcripts for 1996 on
Lexis-Nexis, and found Cheney mentioned only three times in 1996, all
by other commentators -- there is no transcript I saw from Cheney
himself.
And no mention of any support by Cheney for the Perot ticket -- in
fact, Cheney is frequently mentioned as a possible running mate or
cabinet member for Dole, which again reinforces the notion that he was
solidly in the Dole camp.
paf
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Clarification of Question by
graft-ga
on
23 Mar 2005 08:53 PST
I had the same result at Lexis-Nexis. I'm so stubborn that I'm
reasoning the database might only index the featured stories and not
the bits of daily news.
Just for fun, I have more curious events that make me wonder.
Remember Bob Dole's "Republican Party is the Reform Party"? Well,
shortly after the election, James Carville was on Meet the Press and
he was desperately insisting that "There's no reason why the
Democratic Party can't be the Party of Reform." From my perspective,
this smells like fear.
Howard Dean is now in charge of the DNC. I find that curious because
he's the one who attracts the attention of independent voters. In an
evenly divided country, independents may actually have enough voters
to corner the 2008 election, one way or the other.
www.principlesofreform.us is a website that supports a Hawaiian
takeover of the Reform Party's leadership. It was stunning to see
Cheney on election eve (at the Polynesian Culture Center?) in a
fiercely loyal Democratic Party state, just to say "Aloha".
At the recent Conservative Political Action Conference, Cheney said
that there are more people employeed to collect taxes for the IRS that
there are people in the United States Army. I really wonder if that is
a quote from Perot.
In 2000, Pat asked how long has this collusion between Perot and the
Republican Party been going on? Maybe something unsaid is going on
here. Maybe we can connect the dots to find something happened that
isn't news, yet.
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Clarification of Question by
graft-ga
on
24 Mar 2005 04:36 PST
Democats were delusional in 2004, so we didn't see it this time, but
at a certain point in 1996, Republicans had to realize that Clinton
was going to win. Fred Barnes is the classic example of how
Republicans put on a brave face and discredited themselves with
preposterous stories about how the election was going to be a victory.
You said, "And no mention of any support by Cheney for the Perot ticket -- in
fact, Cheney is frequently mentioned as a possible running mate or
cabinet member for Dole, which again reinforces the notion that he was
solidly in the Dole camp."
If Cheney was considered for VP in 1996, then is it possible that
Cheney and Perot would both predict the offer would be open again in
2000?
Remember the "secret meeting" that leaked to the press when Dole
wanted Perot's endorsement?
If Cheney concluded late in the campaign that Dole was going to lose,
and if Cheney was expecting to be VP in 2000, and if Cheney had the
ability to understand the Reform Party very well, then is it possible
that he switched his vote very late in the race so that he could have
our support when it was his turn to run?
Maybe the Democrats got Punk'd.
And why would Ventura endorse Kerry without actually saying it
himself. When I see somebody at a microphone speaking for somebody
else who is sitting behind the speaker, I wonder what is up with that?
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Clarification of Question by
graft-ga
on
28 Mar 2005 10:33 PST
There are 2 republicans named Dick Cheney in this relative time period.
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