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Q: A genealogical "lay up" ( No Answer,   1 Comment )
Subject: A genealogical "lay up"
Category: Family and Home > Families
Asked by: billyjoemcallister-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 22 Mar 2005 11:46 PST
Expires: 21 Apr 2005 12:46 PDT
Question ID: 498692
Need to know death date of brother (Raymond)
and birth/death date & place of father (George)
Martin George Bayne born: Baltimore ,MD. on April/25/1906   died: Jan.29/1960

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 22 Mar 2005 19:47 PST
I found records for two Raymond Bayne's in Baltimore, though they were
both born well after 1906 (1923 and 1949) and died in 1990 and 1992:

RAYMOND L BAYNE  07 Dec 1923 17 Jul 1990 21223 (Baltimore, Baltimore
City, MD) 215-14-4201 Maryland

RAYMOND L BAYNE  14 Jun 1949 Nov 1992 21212 (Baltimore, Baltimore
City, MD) 219-52-3112

Ring any bells?

By the way, there are a lot of George Bayne's about, but I didn't see
any records that seemed to hit the nail on the head vis-a-vis your
easy lay-up.  Nor did I find a record for Martin George Bayne, which
seems odd.

There is no answer at this time.

Subject: Re: A genealogical "lay up"
From: omnivorous-ga on 22 Mar 2005 13:19 PST
BJM --

I hate to disappoint you but unless you are VERY VERY lucky this isn't
a "layup."  In fact it may be virtually impossible for a non-relative
to find the information, inasmuch as many states don't allow
non-relatives to find death certificates.

Here would be the general process:
1.  identify where George Bayne or Raymond Bayne died.  State is
essential; city or town is much much better.
2.  identify date range when George or Raymond died.  State death
certificates are virtually never online -- you'll end up writing to
the Secretary of State or keeper of vital statistics to get what you
need.  But you'll need (1) and possibly (2).
3.  Did either live long enough to have a Social Security number?  If
so, do a Google search for "Social Security Death Index" and see if
you can find them in that database.
4.  Identify where George or Raymond lived in 1920 or 1930 -- the last
years for which the U.S. Census data has been released.

The only case in which is search is a "layup" and not a "full court
shot" is when someone has beat you to it and posted a family tree
somewhere like Rootsweb.  Even then, long experience tells me that you
have to be very careful about taking information from an existing
family tree as accurate, unless you can find confirming documents.

Best regards,


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