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Q: Looking for a grateful dead recording. ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
Subject: Looking for a grateful dead recording.
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music
Asked by: livealot-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 24 Mar 2005 20:32 PST
Expires: 23 Apr 2005 21:32 PDT
Question ID: 500078
My parents took me to a Dead show when I was 8.  I am trying to find a
recording of their show from 08?/83.  I beleive it was at the St Paul
Civic Center but it could have been the Orpheum.  I could be totaly
wrong but they only played Minnesota once or twice that year. I am
looking for a source or (big tip to you) a downloadable recording.
Subject: Re: Looking for a grateful dead recording.
Answered By: clouseau-ga on 24 Mar 2005 21:01 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Hello livealot,

You've found the right researcher! I have been to more than 500 Dead
shows myself and have thousands of recordings.

Seems like your memory is close. In August '83 they were on the West
Coast, but in June they played the Civic Center Arena in St. Paul on

The setlist was:

Jack Straw, They Love Each Other, Cassidy, West LA Fadeaway, Brother
Esau, Big Railroad Blues, Lazy Lightening into Supplication blues into
Might as Well

Second set:

Touch of Grey into Samason and Delilah, Ship of Foools, Women are
Smarter, uncle John's Band into Drumz into Space into Throwing Stones
into Black Peter into Going Down the Road Feeling Bad into Saturday


Baby Blue

Not a bad setlist!!

Now, if you know how to FTP and have an FTP client such as Smart FTP
or WS FTP (both free - just Google 'em), connect to with
your email address and "anonymous" for a password. Browse to the 1983
shows and you will find the show!

It will download as a .shn set of files, which are Shortens. They are
lossless compressed from the original and CD quality. If you have
never done this before, go over to and read about
ftp'ing shows. You can get all the free tools you need at that site.

Ok, I just connected and here is the text file there from that show:

Grateful Dead
Civic Center Arena
St. Paul, Minnesota
Eac >cool edit > shntool > cdwav >shnv3
Eac >shn (secure with proper offsets) by Ernie Dodd

Disc One	
Jack Straw
They Love Each Other *
Cassidy x
West L.A. Fade Away
My Brother Esau
//Big RxR Blues
Lazy Lightning >
Might As Well
Disc Two
Touch Of Grey >
Sampson & Delilah
Ship Of Fools
Women Are Smarter
Uncle John?s Band > &
Drums // >  
Space >

Disc Three
Throwin? Stones >
Black Peter >
Goin? Down The Road Feelin? Bad >
One More Saturday Night

It?s All Over Now Baby Blue 

* 1:13-1:18 drop out in both channels, 1:33 D/O in RC, pasted in LC
x 3:30 digi spurt
// missing first few notes of Big RxR Blues
& 0:13 digi spurt 
// Drums cut, virtually nonexistant

Another installment of The Music Never Stops Project!!
Thanks to Paul B. for the show and Jerry's Kids for the discs!!

You will learn that ACM in the lineage at the top stands for Audience
Cassette Master, for example, so that you can tell the history and
lineage of any recording out online.

Let me know if I can help further.



livealot-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $3.00
Wow- I am so impressed! I’ve thought for years about really trying to
find this recording.  I just discovered this service today and posted
a couple of hours ago and already have the exact info I was looking
for. – Wow!  FYI I vividly remember my Dad putting me on his shoulders
during Drumz and getting as close to the stage as he could.  Pretty
wild for an eight year old.  Once again Thank You!

Subject: Re: Looking for a grateful dead recording.
From: clouseau-ga on 24 Mar 2005 21:29 PST
You're quite welcome. Thanks for the rating and tip. Enjoy the show.


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