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Subject:
UEFA's proposal to require clubs to field 'home-grown' players
Category: Sports and Recreation > Team Sports Asked by: dontam-ga List Price: $50.00 |
Posted:
25 Mar 2005 06:08 PST
Expires: 13 Apr 2005 05:21 PDT Question ID: 500233 |
"UEFA's proposal to require clubs to field 'home-grown' players in their match squads is illegal." I am looking to do a very thorough investigation into the current proposals from UEFA regarding clubs including a certain number of players in their squads for UEFA matches. The investigation is heavily based on legal arguments only so I am looking for case law, precedent and examples all relating to the field of European Football. Definition: A home trained player is either club trained or association trained. CLUB TRAINED: A player trained at that club for 3 years between the ages of 15 and 21. ASSOCIATION TRAINED: A player trained at a club in the same association for 3 years between the ages of 15 and 21. The Proposal: In all UEFA competitions a club has to name a 25 player squad list. UEFA want to introduce an enforcement that 4 of these players must be home trained. Then over 5 seasons to progressively increase this number to 12 home trained players. In order for the investigation to be balanced I need evidence/opinion to say that this is both legal and illegal. Areas to consider will be: Indirect discrimination: More likely that home trained players will be of the same nationality as the club. Proposal cannot be based on any type of discrimination. Free Movement Laws in the European Community: Articles 39/49 of EC Treaty. Free movement of workers and freedom to provide a service. do the proposals follow the legal frame work? Is there a restriction on free movement? Is the restriction justified on the basis of legitimate objectives? If so, are the proposals proportionate? Is there a less restrictive way of achieving the objectives? Anything else you can think of!! All arguments have to be backed up with either European Law, British Law, case law or examples in a football context. I have found cases such as Kolpak to use as in a similar context. Anything like this will be great as well. Any further questions then please ask. | |
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Re: UEFA's proposal to require clubs to field 'home-grown' players
From: myoarin-ga on 29 Mar 2005 07:54 PST |
Dontam, Just to clarify - perhaps for others: As I understand it, the UEFA proposal only applies to UEFA competition matches: EUFA Cup, European Championship, etc. Is that correct? Then it is just a condition for naming players for individual games and is no restriction on employment or free movement laws (and the latter do not guarantee employment, just that EU residents may be employed). Manchester and Real Madrid can still hire as many non-nationals as they want, but under the proposal could not nominate a squad that was made up entirely of them. But since I doubt that any club's contracts with its individual players guarantees that they will be nomiinated for any specific game - or number of games, or for international matches - the proposal would not impinge on the contractual or other legal rights of the individual players. My apologies for just posting an opinion, but perhaps it will suggest something for legally-based responses to your question. |
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Re: UEFA's proposal to require clubs to field 'home-grown' players
From: dontam-ga on 29 Mar 2005 08:48 PST |
yes you are correct. The proposal only appies to UEFA games (champs league and UEFA cup) and does not affect domestic leagues even though it is a recommendation. It only is concerned with the 25 man squad and not the players that actually play the games. The arguement is that it is indirectly discriminate in that it will favour players of the home nation when they seek employment. if you have arguments for or against this with cases to back it up then great - bring it on! |
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Re: UEFA's proposal to require clubs to field 'home-grown' players
From: myoarin-ga on 30 Mar 2005 08:34 PST |
Thanks, I understand your concern, but if the proposal is enacted, even down the road with 12 home-trained players on the game roster, the coach can still field a team with his best foreign players, and make a couple of substitutions before he sends on a local boy. To me, that hardly sounds like indirect discrimination against foreign players. If they are good enough to make the first line-up, they get nominated and most of them will get to play. Sure, the 14th and other ?weaker? foreigners will not be nominated, but they are still getting their pay check, and somewhere in sports, it finally comes down to individual talent. I perceive the proposal as being an effort to counter the discrimination in pro soccer against local players, who have a poorer chance of making the first squad because of the financial pressure for success on the clubs to "buy" more experienced players in the hope of winning. Sorry, I realize that that is not an argument to support what you are looking for. Maybe the UEFA really did their homework. |
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Re: UEFA's proposal to require clubs to field 'home-grown' players
From: no_pseudonym-ga on 12 Apr 2005 00:19 PDT |
I don't think there is anything illegal so far as employment laws are concerned. The fact that the law will only apply to a certain number of games means that the clubs aren't strictly speaking required to violate any free movement or employment regulations. |
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