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Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
Category: Science > Astronomy Asked by: kgyula-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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30 Mar 2005 10:21 PST
Expires: 29 Apr 2005 11:21 PDT Question ID: 502729 |
Let me quote some biographical details: -------------------------------------- Galileo Galilei's parents were Vincenzo Galilei and Guilia Ammannati. Vincenzo, who was born in Florence in 1520, was a teacher of music and a fine lute player. After studying music in Venice he carried out experiments on strings to support his musical theories. Guilia, who was born in Pescia, married Vincenzo in 1563 and they made their home in the countryside near Pisa. Galileo was their first child and spent his early years with his family in Pisa. ------------------------------- Based on this information his lastname is Galilei and his firstname is Galileo. Why do we refer to him as Galileo instead of Galilei? I never saw in official science textbook to refer to Albert Einstein as Albert?! In Europe except England they refer to him as Galilei. What is the reason of this discrepancy and which one is correct? |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: pinkfreud-ga on 30 Mar 2005 10:31 PST |
It's quite common for historical figures to be mentioned by their first names. Rembrandt, Napoleon, Dante, and Leonardo come to mind. |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: probonopublico-ga on 30 Mar 2005 12:19 PST |
....... and Jesus. |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: bowler-ga on 30 Mar 2005 12:38 PST |
....... and Bryan. :) |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: indexturret-ga on 30 Mar 2005 13:52 PST |
I've often wondered the same thing about Saddam Hussein. Why do so many people [English-speaking people at least] call him "Saddam" instead of "Hussein"? I know Hussein is a common surname, but we would call a John Smith "Smith" despite his surname being common. Hmmm. |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: iang-ga on 31 Mar 2005 04:15 PST |
Saddam Hussein isn't <firstname> <lastname>. Hussein is his given name and Saddam is a title he adopted for himself - it means something like "The Crusher". Ian G. |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: indexturret-ga on 31 Mar 2005 06:00 PST |
Re Saddam Hussein: Interesting! Thanks, Ian G. ---IndexTurret |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: justaskscott-ga on 31 Mar 2005 07:37 PST |
Adding to pinkfreud's list: Michelangelo (last name Buonarroti). |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: myoarin-ga on 31 Mar 2005 08:21 PST |
Trust Pinkfreud-ga. Till I got to Europe, I didn't know he had any other name. |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: waukon-ga on 26 May 2005 14:30 PDT |
There is a cutoff date (and I forget exactly when, but basically at the start of the baroque period) where one starts calling European historical figures by their last names. Michaelangelo Buonorotti is referred to by his first name, but Michaelangelo Caravaggio is referred to by his last. It gets complicated for cultures that base a 'last name' on a patronymic, as with Arabic (or, in the case of Icelandic, on matronymics as well), and one ends up digging thru a style guide (such as that of the Modern Language Association). Languages such as Spanish or Portuguese that create a doubled last name based on both last names of the parents are also complicated. |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: myoarin-ga on 26 May 2005 19:47 PDT |
Waukon, You may be right about that cut-off date, although Caravaggio may have just "suffered" lack of first name importance because Michaelangelo hat blocked that name. In Iceland, girls have the name of their fathers with -dattir (daughter) as an addition, so it is not a matronym. I believe that in Sweden into the 19th century, this was also still known in some areas. |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: waukon-ga on 27 May 2005 07:01 PDT |
In Iceland, girls have the name of their fathers with -dattir (daughter) as an addition, so it is not a matronym. I knew better and stand corrected. I actually don't know of any culture that forms 'last names' as a matronymic. I remember my Norwegian grandmother telling me how her mother was once known as Ragnhild Mattiasdottir (or something like that, forgive me any misspelling). Not just Sweden in the 19th century. but also Norway in the vicinity of Lillehammar. |
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Re: Galileo Galilei - What was his REAL lastname
From: myoarin-ga on 28 May 2005 04:00 PDT |
Your grandmother too! But we may be getting to matronyms with all the single mothers around, and in Germany girls can keep their maiden name, and then the parents can pick which name the children will have (but after the first one, they all have to have that name). |
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