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Subject: Gaming Computer - What Makes a Gaming PC
Category: Computers > Hardware
Asked by: genelandry-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 30 Mar 2005 19:57 PST
Expires: 29 Apr 2005 20:57 PDT
Question ID: 503007
I have spent almost a full day on computergamingpc.com and I assume
that a gaming oriented computer site like that has what is considered
a gaming pc.  However, I don't know much about PCs and don't do much
computer work since I retired.  I need to buy a high quality "gaming
computer" for my grandson.  I have a $3000 budget.  He likes to play
computer games and with this kind of money I don't want to buy
something that is going to sit in the corner.  Will someone please
tell me what a gaming computer includes (compared to a regular
computer)? - Gene
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Subject: Re: Gaming Computer - What Makes a Gaming PC
Answered By: sublime1-ga on 30 Mar 2005 22:31 PST
 
Gene...

I'm going to speak from considerable experience here, rather
than attempt to find corroboration for everything I say via
citations researched from the internet. One of my main reasons
for doing so is that there are some time-limited discounts
available from the premiere manufacturer of gaming computers.
Additionally, I built my last PC from scratch, myself, so I
know a great deal about the components, and how they work
together. That, in addition to the rave reviews from innumerable
consumers and analysts with a focus on gaming, makes me more
than confident in recommending Alienware as the source for your
grandson's ultimate gaming PC.


What distinguishes a PC designed to accomodate the rigors of
gaming is essentially one word: speed. The newest games are
such that they continually challenge the manufacturers to 
build machines capable of handling them. In fact, some games
have become the ultimate utilities for 'benchmarking' new
systems and their components.

The speed that is required necessitates the coordinated
performance of several components of the system, so the
ultimate gaming machine has to take each of these into
consideration, as well as their compatibility in working
together. The components are as follows:

CPU
The faster, the better. Speed is measured in Mhz.
Bus speed is another factor in CPU choice, as well
as the possible benefits of multi-threading.

RAM
Memory, and again, lots of it. Measured in MB (megabytes),
and lately, in GB (gigbytes).

Hard Drive
Factors here include RPM (revolutions per minute) which
affects access time - the quicker, the better.

Video Card
The best games are very graphics intensive, and the speed
and amount of cache memory built into the card itself are
both factors. The latest cards are so fast that they often
have their own cooling fan to offset the heat they generate.
This is something unheard of in the past.

Case
The heat generated by the CPU and Video Card of a top-end
gaming machine can be a serious concern. The case needs to
be well-designed for excellent ventilation, with often 
involves a custom cooling fan for the CPU and other fans
to vent the inside of the case.

Power Supply
Should be able to handle the increased power consumption of
a high-end gaming machine with no strain and stable delivery.

Networking
Should have a network card designed to handle a cable connection
to the internet, or better, for the sake of playing interactively
online with other users across the globe, with as little lag, or
latency, as possible.

Monitor
Should be able to handle the power and speed available from a 
high-end video card.

Audio
Not a matter of speed, but since sound is such a major part of the
multimedia experience, it should be inspiring in its capabilities.



If you go to Alienware's site, the homepage is:
http://www.alienware.com/

Click on Gaming, and you get to this page:
http://www.alienware.com/main_gaming.aspx

Scroll halfway down the page, and you'll see their top 3 gaming
machines:

1 - Area-51m 7700
2 - Area-51 5550
3 - Aurora 5500

[While you're in the vicinity, be sure to check out the testimonials
from ecstatic users, as well as the reviews by some of the top gaming
sites on the internet.]

The 7700 is a notebook, and, in general, these are too restrictive
in terms of component size, heat generation, and battery life to
satisfy a true gamer, though, if your grandson will be going to
college anytime soon, it might be a consideration.

The 7500 is a desktop, and features an Intel Pentium 4 CPU chip,
as well as an amazingly fast bus speed. Another consideration is
this chip's multithreading capabilities, which some believe make
it preferable to the AMD option coming up in the next product. 
It's page is here:
http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Area-51_5550/area-51_5550_features.aspx?SysCode=PC-AREA51-5550&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT

You can order this in a standard setup, and no gamer on the planet
would complain, however, if you want to customize it, you can
scroll to the bottom of the page and click Configure. This will
take you to this page, where you can see what it comes with stock,
or upgrade components individually:
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/area-51_5550.aspx?SysCode=PC-AREA51-5550&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT

The Area-51 5500, stock, sells for $1799 with the $500 Instant
Savings that ends THURSDAY!!! That's tomorrow, if I'm not mistaken,
and why I raced to get this answer posted.


Next is the Aurora 5500. This is less expensive, due to the use
of the economical, but still very fast, AMD CPU.

It's description page is here:
http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Aurora/aurora_features.aspx?SysCode=PC-AURORA-5500&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT

And the customize page is here:
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_5500.aspx?SysCode=PC-AURORA-5500&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT

The Aurora is going for $1079 with the $500 Instant Savings,
available until THURSDAY!!!



Since both of these units come in considerably under your budget,
you have the option to upgrade some of the components. As I look
at the options, I would probably focus on the following:

WARRANTY
Alienware is very well-known for their excellent service.
An upgrade here won't hurt, if affordable.

Alien Respawn
Excellent recovery tool. Worth it.

Power Supply
Both a Power Supply and Cooling upgrade, this is worth
it for peace of mind with a high-end machine, but not
strictly necessary. Given the expense, it's up to you.

RAM
Both units come with 512MB. I would take it up a notch.

Video Card
The Area-51 comes with a better card, by default, with 256MB
DDR3 RAM cache. The Aurora comes with only a 128MB cache card,
and could use the upgrade.

Video Optimizer
Worth it!

Chassis Upgrades
Video cooling and acoustic dampening are worth it, if affordable.

System Drive (Hard Drive)
The Aurora could use an upgrade to 120GB.

Optical Drive Two
An extra here can come in handy, but isn't critical.

As you check the different options on the Configure pages,
you'll generate an ongoing total of the options you choose,
which should make the process of arriving at a bottom line
relatively simple.


Though I'm only providing you with one manufacturer here,
that's because, in the end, there really is only one when
it comes to proven reliability when it comes to building
gaming machines. Plus, I really wanted to get this to you
before the Thursday deadline is up.


Please do not rate this answer until you are satisfied that  
the answer cannot be improved upon by way of a dialog  
established through the "Request for Clarification" process. 
 
A user's guide on this topic is on skermit-ga's site, here: 
http://www.christopherwu.net/google_answers/answer_guide.html#how_clarify 
 
sublime1-ga


Searches done, via Google:

Alienware
://www.google.com/search?q=alienware

Request for Answer Clarification by genelandry-ga on 31 Mar 2005 15:10 PST
My daughter specifically said to not get an Alienware because their
sales staff lied to her.  They said the computer would be ready in 10
days and she ended up cancelling the order after almost two months. 
So, no computer for Christmas.  Needless to say we're all more than a
little angry at Alienware.  Now it's almost his birthday and
computergamingpc.com guarantees that they can get me a laptop in 72
hours.

I went to ResellerRatings.com and found out that Alienware has a
terrible customer service track record and has done the same sort of
dishonest sales dealing with other customers.  Here's the link:
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1650.html

I found computergamingpc.com when I was Googling Alienware.  I looked
computergamingpc.com up on resellerratings.com and they have a perfect
score there and they just won a major industry award.

So, thanks for the information about the various parts that make a
gaming pc.  That is what I was looking for.  I have to admit the overt
Alienware advertising there made me dissatisfied with your response. 
It almost seems like you work for them with the cut and paste
offerings from their site and no links to actual research on the
topic.  If someone would please take a look at computergamingpc.com
and tell me which of those laptops would be good for a 14 year old who
likes to play games more than he likes to play outside, I would truly
appreciate it. - Gene

Clarification of Answer by sublime1-ga on 31 Mar 2005 15:34 PST
Gene...

Just a note to let you know I'm on top of your request.

I'm sorry to hear about your unsatisfactory experience with
Alienware. Apparently this is a relatively new development,
probably based on the fact that their excellent reputation
has outstripped their ability to deliver their product.

I certainly don't work for them, but, as you can see by 
denco-ga's enthusiastic endorsement of my recommendation,
I'm not alone in suggesting Alienware to potential buyers,
either among GA Researchers or the internet-savvy in general.

Regardless, I'll be happy to look over the offerings of
computergamingpc.com and get back to you with some
concrete recommendations.

Best regards...

sublime1-ga

Clarification of Answer by sublime1-ga on 31 Mar 2005 17:06 PST
Gene...

The choice of PC gaming laptops is given on this page:
http://computergamingpc.com/gaming_pc_laptops.html

Laptops in general are more expensive than desktops due to
the cost of manufacturing customized smaller components in
smaller quantities than would be the case with desktops.
Therefore, to come even close to the speed and performance
of the desktops I recommended from Alienware, you're going
to have to spend more.

The only one on the page cited that even comes close is
their best model, the Sting 9096, which they call "The 
Most Powerful Laptop in Existence". It's also got a 17"
screen, which is probably the most important factor for
keeping a gamer's interest. It's configuration page is here:
https://www.computergamingpc.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=B0009096&reference=/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3Dall%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DPDGTemplates/Custom1/SearchResult.html%26category%3DB000

The standard configuration goes for $2695, with no Instant
Discounts or Free Shipping, and I'd have to recommend the
following upgrades to make it truly worth buying for a
gaming soul:

Hard Drive
Upgrade to 60 GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 - essential for storing
lots of games and media. You don't want the 80GB with the
slower RPM (5400). That brings you to $2760

CPU
Intel P4 550J 3.4Ghz LGA 775 1024KB L2 Cache with Hyper-Threading
That brings you to $2900. 
It still won't be as fast as a comparably-priced desktop, but it 
will be satisfactoy for most gamers.

Memory
Upgrade to 1GB DDR
This isn't absolutely necessary, but it will likely help.
Unfortunately, it will put you over-budget at $3020.

If you're determined to get closer to, or below $3000,
you could keep the standard 40GB drive, which would get
you down to $2955 + S&H.

Or, you could drop the memory upgrade and upgrade the 
hard drive to 60 GB. This would bring you to $2900
before shipping, and is probably what I would do.

This isn't meant to be confusing, but to help you follow
my reasoning in choosing amongst the options.

Given this exploration, my personal choice for upgrades,
given your working budget, are:

CPU
Intel P4 550J 3.4Ghz LGA 775 1024KB L2 Cache with Hyper-Threading

Hard Drive
60 GB 7200 RPM ATA 100

Total: $2900

Or, if you can swing the extra $120, upgrade the memory to 1GB
and end up with a total of $3020.

If you want to stay below $3000, essentially you must choose
between the bigger hard drive and extra memory. Here's the
role those two will play:

If your grandson is going to boot up and do little besides run
a game, 512MB would probably be fine, especially if he is 
willing to reboot after ending each game. The extra RAM would
allow for more programs to be open at the same time, all running
without creating a strain on the system. For multi-taskers, who
want to browse the internet and hold a chat session using the 
built-in digital camera, all while keeping a game on 'pause', 
additional RAM would be advisable. If he's only going to run
the game, 512MB should be fine.

The increased storage space of a 60GB hard drive would allow for
the storage of larger numbers of games and game demos, the latter
of which are freely downloadable over the internet, and would
allow him to try various games before investing in the full
versions. Both the demos and the full versions can take up a 
LOT of space, especially if he is one of those gamers that likes
to do a "full install" which stores the entire CD (or two) of a
game on the hard drive, allowing him to play the game with a 
faster response time than if he played it with the CD inserted
into the CD-ROM drive.

Obviously, both upgrades have their advantages and having both
would be ideal, but another factor to consider is that it should
theoretically be easier to install additional RAM at a later date
than it would be to switch out hard drives and duplicate the 
contents from the old drive to the new one. And that's probably
the best reason to choose the hard drive upgrade over the RAM
upgrade, if a choice must be made.

I think that's a pretty thorough discussion of the options, but
if anything's not clear, don't hesitate to ask for further
clarification.

sublime1-ga
Comments  
Subject: Re: Gaming Computer - What Makes a Gaming PC
From: denco-ga on 31 Mar 2005 12:26 PST
 
To hopefully add to the sublime1-ga's great answer, you will definitely
want to go through the "Customize" process that sublime1-ga mentions,
and add a monitor to the system.  The following is one that partners to
the computers mentioned quite nicely.
http://www.alienware.com/GearShop_Pages/Gear_Shop_Detail.aspx?ItemId=12888&CatId=1008

You can add it to your computer order under the section marked:

Display One
Alienware® 20.1" LCD Display - New Low Price! $772

You will also want to add speakers, under the section marked:

Speakers

If it is a big room where the computer will be placed, try:

Logitech® Z-5300e 5.1 280-Watt Speakers $149

For a small room, try these:

Klipsch ProMedia? 2.1 200-Watt THX® Speakers $127

Of the computers that sublime1-ga discusses and links above, I would suggest
the Area 51 5550.
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/area-51_5550.aspx?SysCode=PC-AREA51-5550

It has the Intel chipset, lots of power, and a good price as well.

Sublime1-ga is spot on that Alienware is the way to go.

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher
Subject: Re: Gaming Computer - What Makes a Gaming PC
From: sublime1-ga on 31 Mar 2005 13:00 PST
 
Thanks very much to my colleague denco-ga for your useful
comments in collaboration with my (somewhat rushed) answer.

sublime1-ga
Subject: Re: Gaming Computer - What Makes a Gaming PC
From: denco-ga on 31 Mar 2005 16:17 PST
 
For whatever it is worth, genelandry-ga, you do not want to get a laptop
computer if you are looking for a high quality gaming computer.

From the Widow PC (www.computergamingpc.com) web site, the Talon PC would
be my pick.  Mind you, a comparable base system for $500 more than at
Alienware.
http://www.computergamingpc.com/gaming_pc_desktops.html#Talon%20Express

Options you would need to select are:
- Under "System Chassis:" select the less expensive Raidmax case
- Mouse and Keyboard $99 (Logitech Cordless)
- Monitor $472 (Viewsonic 17" LCD)
- Speakers $50 (Altec Lansing 2.1)
Total $2995.00

Just for fun, I added the larger 20.1" LCD display and the Logitech 5.1
speaker system to the Alienware Area 51 5550 system, which has a faster
processor, etc. and it came up to $2,749.00.

For whatever it is further worth, I, as a computer professional for over
30 years, would be short of breath if someone gave me the Alienware system.
Major bragging rights goes along with their systems, as well, which would
be worth major points with your grandson, even if it was a late birthday
gift.  Did you want to adopt me as a grandson, albeit an old one?

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher
Subject: Re: Gaming Computer - What Makes a Gaming PC
From: denco-ga on 31 Mar 2005 16:23 PST
 
By the way, I don't work for Alienware either.  Just know they have a very
good reputation.
http://www.alienware.com/press_release_pages/press_release_template.aspx?FileName=press_computershopper_0204.asp

"Alienware, the worldwide leading manufacturer of high-performance computer
desktop, mobile, and professional systems, announced today the receipt of two
[2003] Shoppers? Choice Awards from Computer Shopper magazine. The
award-winning Area-51 and Area-51m were selected over dozens of
competitive offerings
by a majority of voters from among Computer Shopper?s estimated 543,000
readers.
...
Alienware has received numerous awards from leading industry publications such
as Computer Shopper, CNet, Computer Games, Maximum PC and many more including
an unprecedented eleven PC Gamer Editors? Choice Awards in a row."

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher

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