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Subject: Stainless steel ball burnishing
Category: Science > Chemistry
Asked by: engineer84-ga
List Price: $150.00
Posted: 30 Mar 2005 21:41 PST
Expires: 29 Apr 2005 22:41 PDT
Question ID: 503032
How does stainless steel ball burnishing of stainless steel parts work?

I'm looking for introductory information about the chemistry and
physics of the process (aimed at a professional engineer, at least
1000 words), and some detail about the chemicals involved (preferably
both what the chemicals actually are and commercial products (part
codes and supplier contact details for the chemicals) available in
Australia), and the processing parameters I should expect (eg. How
long should a batch take to burnish? How do the positions of the two
weights in the machine influence the finish achieved? What is the
effect of the machine's speed?).

Background and research already completed:
I have recently purchased an industrial burnishing machine (not this
one [http://bvproducts.com.au/Products/bowls.htm], but a machine a bit
like it). The supplier and I are trying to make it work... and having
trouble.

I'm using 5mm stainless steel balls for media and either a tallow soap
based brightening compound or a citric acid based compound. My parts
are pressed stainless steel (304) housings (2.5mm thick, geometrically
similar to a large coffee mug).

My parts are drawn, which leaves them with two distinct surface finish
regions: part the original grey of the steel, part already pressure
polished to a high brightness. My current process makes the regions
that are already bright very bright, and doesn't do much to the grey
regions, so the parts look silly. I'm sure the process is able to
bring the rougher regions to a high brightness (examples I've found so
far here [http://www.pfonline.com/articles/web100201.html] and here
[http://dougcometalfinishing.com/burnishing.html], various others
mentioning mirror pright finishes and process times between 5 and 40
minutes), but I'm not sure how. My supplier also provided me with one
sample (a year ago) with a mirror bright finish, which he said at the
time he did in 30 minutes, but we can't work out how he did it and he
can't reproduce it. My current process is taking about two hours to
produce a very inferior finish.

I've done some experimenting on my own, including peening the parts
with steel ball and hammer, and the impression of the ball alone does
not produce a bright finish - the chemical must be a part of the
process.
My current working hypothesis is that we're using the wrong
chemicals... that our sample part of a year ago was done with a
different chemical blend, which my supplier is unable to reproduce.

Other things:
* Don't bother rewording material you find on the web (links are good,
and I read fast).
* Don't talk to these guys - http://bvproducts.com.au/.

Clarification of Question by engineer84-ga on 31 Mar 2005 16:02 PST
If any researchers think they might be able to bite off part of this
question, please say so. I'm happy to redefine the question to get as
much help as I can.
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Subject: Re: Stainless steel ball burnishing
From: jimbo47-ga on 27 Feb 2006 01:01 PST
 
Dear Sir,

Can you please explain why you are telling people NOT to contact us?
Whilst we cannot always be all things to everybody I would like the
opportunity to understand why you would write this given you are not
using our equipment or processes. From your posting you understand
very little about the steel ball burnishing processes. I am happy to
provide you with a free demonstration at our plant of the methodoligy
anytime - maybe then you will not write nasty things about my company
that has survived for over 30 years????

Jim Riley.

BV Products
Subject: Re: Stainless steel ball burnishing
From: jimbo47-ga on 27 Feb 2006 01:07 PST
 
Dear Sir,

Can you please explain why you are telling people NOT to contact us?
Whilst we cannot always be all things to everybody I would like the
opportunity to understand why you would write this given you are not
using our equipment or processes. From your posting you understand
very little about the steel ball burnishing processes. I am happy to
provide you with a free demonstration at our plant of the methodology
anytime - maybe then you will not write nasty things about my company
that has survived for over 30 years????

Jim Riley.

BV Products
Subject: Re: Stainless steel ball burnishing
From: jimbo47-ga on 27 Feb 2006 01:52 PST
 
Don't bother to reply - I know who you were/are. Boy was I right!
Subject: Re: Stainless steel ball burnishing
From: engineer84-ga on 28 Feb 2006 14:52 PST
 
Jim,

Sorry you feel that way.
I thought my post hadn't said any "nasty things about [your] company".
I had certainly tried not to be critical. I pointed at a different
machine on your website, but identified that this was not the machine
in question, and suggested that no-one contact you (since I was at
this time (Mar 2005) talking to you regularly - I didn't want any
researchers to waste your time).

Perhaps you could ask a disinterested third party to read the post and
tell you whether they think it critical?

Regardless, sorry to offend.

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