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Subject:
Are there any palm tree species that were indigenous to the Alabama Gulf Coast?
Category: Science > Earth Sciences Asked by: waterhick-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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31 Mar 2005 18:45 PST
Expires: 30 Apr 2005 19:45 PDT Question ID: 503434 |
I have an acquaintance who claims that her grandmother told her that a hurricane in 1908 killed all the native palm trees along the Gulf Coast of Alabama and they never came back. I have lived here, Orange Beach/Gulf Shores area for nearly thirty years and do not believe there were ever any indigenous palm trees to this area. All of the palm trees in this area have been brought in and planted around homes, condominiums, hotels, etc. There are certainly native palmetto ferns, but I do not believe there were any native real palm trees. I am looking for an authoritative definitive answer to this question. |
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Yes! But it looks like a bush
From: clint34-ga on 01 Apr 2005 05:11 PST |
http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Rhapidophyllum/hystrix.jpg http://www.raingardens.com/psst/articles/stxpalms.htm hapidophyllum hystrix (NEEDLE PALM) is native to southern Georgia and Alabama, extreme southeastern South Carolina, extreme southeastern Mississippi and all but the most southern region of the Florida peninsula. It is an endangered species in the wild, originally never that abundant in any given locality, and vastly underexploited as an ornamental/landscape subject. It is a clumping or suckering palm with very short or sometimes apparently non-existent trunks and usually no more than a total of three. The growing points are covered with fibers and a few very long and sharp gray to black, mostly upward pointing spines, which fact gives rise to both the common and botanical (scientific) names. The little palm has wonderful leaves that are long-petioled, with the leaf blade (lamina) forming a semicircle of very deeply divided yellowish green to dark green (mainly depending on how much sun it gets) segments that almost always exhibit a white or grayish midrib. It grows in sun or shade but looks its best, we think, in at least partial shade which makes the petioles even longer and the color of the leaves a deeper green. Individual plants can attain a height of about eight feet and a width of 12 or more feet. There are few small palms that are better suited to planting under a tree canopy. It is not very drought tolerant, but will survive such condition and it likes a fairly decent and humusy soil -- two requirements somewhat difficult to come by in most of southern Texas. Some consider this species to be the world's hardiest to cold; if it isn't it is definitely the second most hardy. |
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Re: Are there any palm tree species that were indigenous to the Alabama Gulf Coa
From: myoarin-ga on 01 Apr 2005 08:21 PST |
Hey, I wasn?t around for 1908 hurricane, but for a couple later on. Are they still showing people the painted spot of blood where the officer at Fort Morgan died? Clint34-ga beat me to a comment, but This site tells all about palms that grow in the Deep South, and indeed the Cabbage Palm is a native plant, and has a trunk. I agree, that most of the other natives are more what I would consider a palmetto, and your friend?s gran was probably also thinking about palms with trunks. Interestingly, the article says that the cabbage palm is often one of the few trees remaining after a hurricane, but maybe if even they blew down, that was a measure of that hurricane?s strength. What I don?t know is how palms reproduce - if they aren?t coconut or date palms - so it could be (?) that if the native ones all toppled, they did not come back. So on one point you would be right, that all the ones you see have been planted and may be non-native varieties. Anyway ? http://www.ces.uga.edu/Agriculture/horticulture/Palmreader.html#Some%20Palms%20You%20Can%20Grow palm tree native gulf coast as a search found 98 000 hits, so maybe you can find more of interest. |
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